Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative
I think they know it. And sweat.
I agree.
You're welcome.
I thought for a while Nat might have a chance if she were still alive when the Holloways got there and the press arrived. I thought the big dogs would get her back real quick. but the fact that they didn't right away convinced me she was dead. And that Joran did it or Joran and his boys. Or Joran a/o his father, etc. But I knew if she was alive in Venezuela, she would be produced.
The Casa Nostra are vicious but not dumb. They know how to keep a low profile.
And then factor in heroin from Afghanistan and it seems that this crap is all intertwined. It's actually not so much of an onion as a matrix. There is no bottom to it...it is a network of evil.
And you are right. The VDS's have just stepped in it...and tracked it into the house. Hehe, pride goeth before the fall.
Hey Freddie.
I was amazed at the breadth of all of this. And the everchanging landscape. The most interesting part was the description of Canada as a laboratory for organized international crime. And the influx of Chinese gangs, Chechens, et into Canada. And how they are acting as independent contractors for time limited jobs rather than as a family/culture like the Casa Nostra.
You have to admit it, these Dudes have great capacity to adapt.
7/1/2005, 7:28 p.m. CT
By PETER PRENGAMAN The Associated Press
ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) — Aruba's chief government spokesman said Friday that three young men detained in the disappearance of an Alabama teenager have not been formally charged but could be as soon as Monday.
Earlier, Aruba's attorney general, Karin Janssen, told The Associated Press that the young men had been charged with murder since their arrest three weeks ago.
"The three have been charged with the murder of Natalee Holloway from the beginning" of their arrest 10 days after the young woman went missing May 30, she said in a recorded interview. "At the time, we didn't want to upset the family talking about murder while they searched."
The attorney general and other Aruban officials have said for weeks that no one has been charged in the 18-year-old's disappearance. Janssen said authorities also withheld information about the charges in order not to compromise their investigation. Authorities have said they have no physical evidence suggesting Holloway is dead.
The government spokesman, Ruben Trapenberg, contacted the AP following the English-language interview with Janssen.
"This is a question of semantics. It's been a problem since Day One," Trapenberg said. "The charging is a formal process that happens later on. It could happen as soon as Monday."
Return calls to Janssen were not immediately returned.
Trapenberg did not clarify what charges could be filed against the three. They had been scheduled to go before a judge Monday to learn whether their detentions would be extended another 60 days. Under Dutch law that governs Aruba, a protectorate of the Netherlands, detainees can be held 116 days before being charged by a judge.
Janssen said 17-year-old Joran van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers who are his friends have been charged since their arrest June 9 — 10 days after the disappearance of Holloway. The teen disappeared on the the last day of a five-day vacation with 124 students from Mountain Brook, Ala., celebrating their high school graduation.
All court hearings in the case have been closed to the public.
Police have been criticized for letting more than a week go by without detaining the three young men last seen with Holloway and for waiting 16 days after she went missing before searching van der Sloot's home.
"The stupidest thing to do is run and arrest them because an hour later they will go free and you have nothing," Janssen told the AP.
When asked if the young men would have had time to destroy evidence, Janssen acknowledged the possibility but said "it didn't happen in this case."
Van der Sloot's family and lawyer have said the 17-year-old is innocent of any crime. Efforts to reach them or the Holloway family on Friday were not successful.
Janssen said the prosecution was centering its case around e-mail and cell phone text messages written between the suspects the night Holloway disappeared. Janssen declined to offer further details about the messages, but said not having a body would make getting a murder conviction "more difficult but not impossible."
Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18, and van der Sloot were the last ones seen with Holloway the night she disappeared. Four other people — including van der Sloot's father, Paul, a high-ranking island judicial official — were detained and released.
The three young men initially told police that after a night of eating, drinking and dancing, they took Holloway to a northern beach before dropping her off at her hotel around 2 a.m. Satish Kalpoe's lawyer has since said his client now claims that he and his brother dropped Holloway and Joran van der Sloot off together at a beach near the Marriott hotel, then went home.
Hezbollah is active on the island? I wondered about the beheading! Any connection? Message I got from that was nobody was going to talk. Or live, their choice.
If you wish to opine.
I remember her "threatening" something like she was going to go back to June 11.
Somehow I think Beth and her family brought some standards to the investigation (through theirs and the media's questions) along with some details that have the authorities in a box. By last night the Twitty's seemed to be saying they just wanted their daughter and wanted to leave...they didn't care about the prosecution. But it seems to late for all that.
Not on the island. The cuntrera/curiano Casa Nostra family has a transnational criminal enterprise. They live in Venezuela along the Colombian border and used to run Aruba till they were forced out.
They run guns, are said to, to Hezbollah and other groups like that. Their reach is worldwide,,Asia,middle east.
But that part is not out of Aruba to my knowledge. They do all kinds of stuff,,,drugs, money laundering, sex trade, arms running.
No bloviating, my job.
OK, that sounds about right. Interesting that Canada is rotten to the core, but not surprising. I've got an idea, lets merge with them.
Argh-h-h! :)
LOL
funny place that Aruba, hey? Any muzzies live there?
What say you?
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