Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: cajungirl

Are you a member of SM?

861 posted on 07/01/2005 3:54:51 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Malichi

Thanks Malichi, NSNR

862 posted on 07/01/2005 3:55:17 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

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To: spectre

Agreed, and wise words Spectre. NSNR

863 posted on 07/01/2005 3:56:47 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Agreed, wise words Spectre. NSNR

864 posted on 07/01/2005 3:58:48 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

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To: TexKat

What Greta says......I'll buy.

865 posted on 07/01/2005 3:59:14 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: monkeywrench

Ha, me too. Let's let Nancy loose along with Mark Furhman. I'm trying to catch up. This thread has been really prolific today!!

866 posted on 07/01/2005 3:59:14 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Dark Skies

Jossy may be the top man himself.

867 posted on 07/01/2005 3:59:30 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)

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To: spectre

That poor mom. Nobody should ever have to endure such a living nightmare.

868 posted on 07/01/2005 4:00:39 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: TexKat

Check your freepmail...have fun and report back

869 posted on 07/01/2005 4:01:17 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)

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To: Canadian Outrage

Whoa!!! Nancy, Greta & Mark together down there!

FIREBALLS!! And Whoopa$$.....BIG TIME!

870 posted on 07/01/2005 4:04:17 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: cajungirl

Jossy may be the top man himself.

He might, indeed. And that is why every loves him. He affects an avuncular style (just a newspaper man, Ma'am), when deep down, he is the top mafioso.

871 posted on 07/01/2005 4:04:45 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: No Surrender No Retreat

MSNBC: AP report - 3 charged in missing teen case - MSNBC Video

872 posted on 07/01/2005 4:05:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: cajungirl

According to, Word From De Streets, Jossy got's the juice. NSNR

873 posted on 07/01/2005 4:05:27 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

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To: cajungirl

874 posted on 07/01/2005 4:05:55 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: spectre

Just heard Beth Twitty on Abrams

I gave up and turned it off.

Over half an hour of SD O'C....

875 posted on 07/01/2005 4:06:13 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Dark Skies; cajungirl

OK..so we'll officially give Jossey Mansur the title of "The Godfather".

He needs to make someone an offer they can't refuse :)

876 posted on 07/01/2005 4:08:59 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: spectre; cajungirl; NCjim; USF; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado

He needs to make someone an offer they can't refuse.

I would bet Jossy (or the real godfather, if it isn't Jossy) is just waiting for the right time. If young VDS killed the girl out of anger, or sold her for a little cash, or gave her enough rohypnol to cause her to OD, he and his daddy are toast.

877 posted on 07/01/2005 4:17:18 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Jrabbit

Yes, Gene Ralston was the side scan sonar guy that was in charge of looking for Laci in the Bay.

878 posted on 07/01/2005 4:21:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: monkeywrench

Also Nancy will hold on like a bull dog until she gets her answer. She won't let people "skirt" all around her questions. If they do, she just says, "so you won't answer my question"!!!!

879 posted on 07/01/2005 4:23:22 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Jrabbit

I heard that just before I left home. They HAVE had forensics. I hope that PVDS doesn't get completely absolved of HIS involvement in this. I place the LONG delay in getting answers and the HELL that has put on this family right ON Paulus Van der Sloot!!

880 posted on 07/01/2005 4:25:26 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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