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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: Palladin
I don't think Nancy Grace want to go to Aruba. The brisk breezes might upset her hairdo.

That's what I love about Greta. There she is hair a-blowing, no lipstick, tromping around all of Aruba with no self-consciousness. She is doing her job, and a dam# good one, too. Laurie Dhue would have too much sand stuck on her lipgloss to even do an interview. (Actually, that's not true - in Iraq her lipgloss was sandfree!)

661 posted on 07/01/2005 1:59:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Jrabbit

Didn't they send stuff to labs in Holland?


662 posted on 07/01/2005 2:00:07 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Howlin

But I'll bet they didn't know it... this is the formal charge and hokds them all for at least another 60 days, right?

I think this is stratergery.


663 posted on 07/01/2005 2:00:34 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Howlin

LOL! YES!! I saw your post!

Like every case I follow diligently....
the one day I let my guard down....
THINGS HAPPEN!!!


664 posted on 07/01/2005 2:00:56 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: onyx

No, that is Monday.


665 posted on 07/01/2005 2:00:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: kcvl

Please pass to the family my prayers are with them.
It may not be much comfort to them now, but at least Natalee is at peace and she has not suffered these past 30 days.


666 posted on 07/01/2005 2:01:20 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Howlin


Right, what day is this?


667 posted on 07/01/2005 2:01:26 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: truthluva
Just heard on the radio that the 3 youths were charged with murder all along, but they didn't want to upset the FAMILY??? Say whaaa??? Oh, poor Beth. Poor Beth.

Give the public some info as to the evidence, Aruba! The way you are treating this family is worse than if you had been direct from the start. Aruba stinks.

668 posted on 07/01/2005 2:01:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Howlin

Didn't want to hurt the families feelings? hmmmmmm


669 posted on 07/01/2005 2:02:00 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

No wonder Beth was crying earlier.


670 posted on 07/01/2005 2:02:10 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Howlin; kcvl; xsmommy

Where's kcvl? Did you ping her?

xs too?


671 posted on 07/01/2005 2:02:14 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Howlin
Have been all along!

All along??

WTH??? .. why did they drag this out so long?

Did they find her?

672 posted on 07/01/2005 2:02:16 PM PDT by Mo1 (We will stay in the fight until the fight is won ~~~ President G.W. Bush)
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To: Mo1

And that STUPD VDS mother who keeps saying she is so SURE Natalee is still alive!


673 posted on 07/01/2005 2:03:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: All

Apparently this is why the police chief is getting out of the way, so they can go ahead and charge his best friend and his son with murder.


674 posted on 07/01/2005 2:03:48 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Yaelle

She knew better --- nobody with an ounce of sense thinks poor, beautiful Natalee is alive.


675 posted on 07/01/2005 2:04:41 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: onyx
This was thee only way for the prosecutor to go.

Albeit....she made everyone sweat for a month!!!

Got to the point, I was thinking about this case in my sleep!

[I am sick to death of hearing about SD O'Conner's resignation today.......ENUFF ALREADY!!]

676 posted on 07/01/2005 2:04:45 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

Wow! Just got home a minute ago to this news. What evidence do they have; have they said?


677 posted on 07/01/2005 2:04:47 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Mo1

Kinda makes you wonder if they are just re-phrasing the charge to appease the media. Why is isn't PVDS charged? Was SC charged the first day he was arrested, but then he went free?


678 posted on 07/01/2005 2:05:13 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: sodpoodle
Right on - nothing allowed to interfere with the express service directly to the Dutch drug cafes.

It was either Dave Holloway or Juggs Twitty who stated in one interview their were 60 drug houses on the same street as C&C. Does anyone remember who said that?
679 posted on 07/01/2005 2:05:19 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Howlin

HUH???

I can only imagine the rage I, as a parent, would feel the moment I learned this. If I was Beth, Jug would have to keep me from ripping their (authorities) heart out through their throats. Bastards. (sorry, it is the nicest word I can call up right now).


680 posted on 07/01/2005 2:05:49 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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