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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

Previous FR Natalee Holloway Threads...

Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 3
Posted on 06/23/2005 12:44:51 PM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1429067/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 2
Posted on 06/20/2005 12:14:36 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426433/posts

Natalee Holloway - Extended Thread 1
Posted on 06/16/2005 11:43:44 AM CDT by brigette
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424188/posts

Another Twist in Holloway Disappearance
Posted on 06/14/2005 11:24:41 AM CDT by PBRSTREETGANG
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422593/posts

Ala. Teen's Mom: Men 'Know What Happened' (Natalee Holloway)
Posted on 06/13/2005 4:01:55 AM CDT by bd476
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1421756/posts

Natalee's body found... (false report)
Posted on 06/11/2005 1:05:50 PM CDT by kcvl
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1420967/posts

Holloway Not Only American Missing In Aruba
Posted on 06/08/2005 1:25:36 AM CDT by MassRepublicanFlyersFan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418606/posts

Natalee Holloway (Aruba) 5 Men Now in Custody
Posted on 06/07/2005 3:35:36 PM CDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418322/posts

Aruba Info...

Ariel/Satellite Map of Aruba
http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=12.564583,-70.035954&spn=0.089264,0.123081&z=4&t=k&hl=en

Full Aruba Island Maps
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif (BEST MAP)
http://www.caribbean-on-line.com/islands/ar/images/aruba2002.gif (good map but blurry)
http://www.aruba-tours.com/art/arubaattmap1.gif

Oranjestad Aruba Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/oranjestad2002.gif

San Nicolas Street Map
http://www.caribline.com/islands/ar/images/sannicolas2002.gif

Hotel Location Maps in the California Lighthouse Area
http://www.arubaluxurycondos.com/images/arubamap1.gif
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (NICE MAP)

Hotel Pictures
http://www.frommers.com/images/destinations/maps/jpg/176_resortareaaccomodations.jpg (Map)

Aruba Marriott Resort & Stellaris Casino - #1 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #101
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaar/phototour/auaar_phototour22.jpg?Log=1

Marriott's Aruba Ocean Club - #2 on Map
LG Smith Boulevard #99
http://marriott.com/propertyimages/a/auaao/phototour/auaao_phototour01.jpg?Log=1

Holiday Inn Sunspree Resort - #3 on Map (both buildings are the Holiday Inn)
http://phototour.ichotelsgroup.com/hotelimages/AUAAN/WELCM_EXTR_02_D.jpg

Playa Linda Beach Resort - #4 on Map
http://www.playalinda.com/enghome.html

Manchebo Beach Area Map
http://www.mapsworldwide.com/mwwlive/itm_img/3897075008sam.gif

Aruba Beach Location Maps
http://www.arubariba.com/ArubamapBeachMap1.jpg
http://www.arubatravelinfo.com/maps/arubabeachmap.jpg (nice detailed map)

Aruba Township Location Map
http://www.arubarealestate.com/aruba_map/

Aruba Diving Location Maps
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/diving_a.html

Aruba Beach/Site Seeing Pictures
http://www.visitaruba.com/attractions/sunandfun/beaches.html

Aruba/Natalee - Blogs/Boards/Forums/News Feeds
http://bb.visitaruba.com/
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=1&i=124287&t=124287&v=t
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/Discussion/ (Forum) - POPULAR
http://spaces.msn.com/members/amykappel/ (Blogger in Aruba)
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/ (Blog) - POPULAR
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com (Blog)
http://www.hasibokos.com/hbknews/default.asp?view=day&blogDate=6/10/2005 (Blog - English Version)
http://www.i66.com/ (Natalee Holloway News Feed)

Aruba White/Yellow Pages
http://arubayp.com/

Suspect's Personal Pages or Picture Album Locations
http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=14905439&Mytoken=20050613202923

Online TV Show Links


Shortcuts...

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty  (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network


Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005


Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse -  the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.


PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)



I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE


Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)


This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.




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To: kcvl
"But when they went to knock on the door of the Kalpoe family, [Texas Equusearch] received a You-Are-Not-Welcome-Here attitude. The mother of Satish and Deepak came out, and denied the Texas Equusearch team access on her property."

What's up with that? In this country you would just go get a search warrant. I'm amazed that their property hasn's been searched yet by the police. After all, the two brothers are under arrest. This story just gets crazier every day. Another very good reason not to vacation in these weird foreign countries.

361 posted on 06/30/2005 5:07:59 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: TexKat
No Bill O'Reilly on The Factor tonight, maybe he is ill over Greta's ratings.

LOL!
362 posted on 06/30/2005 5:08:37 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: WestCoastGal

I agree, you couldn't GIVE me a trip to Aruba!!


363 posted on 06/30/2005 5:09:27 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: sodpoodle
I'll go back and read it.

Been way too busy away from the computer today.

364 posted on 06/30/2005 5:11:15 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: All
From SM:

Here's the link for the Riddles; Breaking the Code. Please note; this was not written by me. I don't know who is Shango except that he is the poster who was giving the codes/riddles a few pc's at a time. Someone else broke the code.....

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=527

365 posted on 06/30/2005 5:13:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

It is archived and they want euros to let me see it...

here is the header
Natalee no longer live '
Inland country,Tuesday 28 June 2005 (965 words)
Jan of of the streets lead Natalee Holloway on Aruba the study into the disappearance of the American teenager. He has hope on good result for Natalee no longer. Because...


366 posted on 06/30/2005 5:15:58 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Judge Napolitano says that the Aruban prosecutor has commited a crime in Aruba by leaking info that was obtained in an ongoing case.


367 posted on 06/30/2005 5:17:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

I just heard him say that.


368 posted on 06/30/2005 5:20:42 PM PDT by Peach
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To: TexKat
TK..could you post what you want us to read? I can't find it on SM..:(

sw

369 posted on 06/30/2005 5:24:03 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: TexKat

So, does that mean there is no case because of that? Technicality?


370 posted on 06/30/2005 5:26:13 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: TexKat

I don't buy everything Napolitano always says tho. You should have heard him all through the Peterson case. He was dead WRONG every time!!


371 posted on 06/30/2005 5:30:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat
"Judge Napolitano says that the Aruban prosecutor has commited a crime in Aruba by leaking info that was obtained in an ongoing case."

Well, wouldn't that just be perfect for them!! Never mind all the stupid things the criminals did, they only want to focus on how to let them go free it seems.

372 posted on 06/30/2005 5:30:09 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: spectre
TK..could you post what you want us to read? I can't find it on SM..:(

It is must too long spectre and I don't know if this Shango is some nitwit or some voodoo individual or not. They (SM) have just created a separate thread for it: http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=527

or when you go to SM look for the thread entitled:

RIDDLES; BREAKING THE CODE

373 posted on 06/30/2005 5:31:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: sodpoodle; brigette; pissant
This is the 4th thread of what was originally a very thorough dissection of all known and likely facts surrounding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

Recently, it has become a hotbed of quite a few pre and post menopausal women who need chastisement. I thought you could do it.
 

Just a note to say very loudly that Nita was not in on this hottie conversation.

(How dare someone not ping me!)

So, who has cyber-dibs on him? :-)

374 posted on 06/30/2005 5:33:53 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: TexKat

well it would be nice if I could get into SM


375 posted on 06/30/2005 5:35:23 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)
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To: monkeywrench
Too bad. They'd have had this case solved if there were a few cowboys among them.

Or one Texas Ranger. ;-)

376 posted on 06/30/2005 5:35:32 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: monkeywrench
So, does that mean there is no case because of that? Technicality?


377 posted on 06/30/2005 5:35:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: WestCoastGal

That too!! I no longer have ANY faith much in this case because of the CORRUPT Judge that has been SPECIFICALLY ASSIGNED to this case. It's obvious. Who knows what's behind it but we all know it STINKS very badly. What a system, it's secretive, it's unquestionable, and it's completely unreasonable as well as the investigation is totally INCOMPETENT. Perhaps deliberatly incompetent.


378 posted on 06/30/2005 5:36:01 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: spectre
mark fuhrman is a hottie...

Oh, yeah....

379 posted on 06/30/2005 5:36:42 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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