Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: demkicker

I'd heard today that the windows were darkly tinted, also. Others have posted what I did, but people have lost track of that info.

301 posted on 06/30/2005 3:44:24 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: All

I am off of here for a while - I need to cook dinner!
I'll be back on around the time BOR starts.

302 posted on 06/30/2005 3:47:20 PM PDT by stlnative (please do NOT feed the THREAD trolls by responding to the thread troll's post)

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To: Lizarde

Your tag line is rather saucy. Over 40 what? How many of the 40 have you forgotten?

303 posted on 06/30/2005 3:47:37 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)

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To: brigette

Brid..I don't know how to break this to you..but I don't think he is going to visit with us..

But you have guts, girl!

304 posted on 06/30/2005 3:48:00 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: monkeywrench

And, now, he is allowed to see joran. Why?

This morning reported on Fox News, PVDS visited Joran yesterday some time permitted by the judge due to Joran being under 18 years old.

305 posted on 06/30/2005 3:49:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: spectre

Checking and I agree with ya'll about older men :-)

306 posted on 06/30/2005 3:51:39 PM PDT by Peach

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To: sodpoodle

Mark Fuhrman was railroaded at the OJ trial. He was brilliant. Just shows you what a diversionary tactic can do at trial.

Yes he has the sheeples spending their money on his books and eating up every word that he spouts via cable news shows.

307 posted on 06/30/2005 3:51:39 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: monkeywrench

I'd heard today that the windows were darkly tinted, also. Others have posted what I did, but people have lost track of that info.

Well, I don't care if it is a repeated post. I'm sure I'm not the only one who hasn't read that very likely scenario and we need to share it some more!

308 posted on 06/30/2005 3:53:02 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: brigette

Same here....

309 posted on 06/30/2005 3:54:00 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: brigette

I am off of here for a while - I need to cook dinner! I'll be back on around the time BOR starts.

You must be microwaving dinner, lol!!

310 posted on 06/30/2005 3:54:30 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: monkeywrench

A taxi!! YES! Some of the friends thought it was a taxi, right? She thought she was going back to the HI.

311 posted on 06/30/2005 3:54:31 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: TexKat

Mark Fuhrman has earned my respect for having survived the media character assassination and destruction of his law enforcement profession.

He had the goods on OJ. Apparently evidence was not good enough to convict a cold blooded killer in this upside down world.

Let's remember that when Natalee is found and the accused is on trial.

Respectfully,
sp

312 posted on 06/30/2005 4:00:24 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)

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To: Jrabbit; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ? (2)

"PvdS was never a judge" (Thursday) A.M. Digital (@ Aruba.com) is reporting that Paul van der Sloot was never a judge in the Common Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. Hasibokos.com has been following the Dutch, American and Aruban media and they all post conflicting stories with regard to the postition of Paul van der Sloot. A.M. reported today that they want to correct the false information that is constantly being published and aired, especially by the international (US) media, that Paul van der Sloot, father of Joran van der Sloot, is a judge in the Aruba jusicial system.

A.M. reported that in 2003, Paul van der Sloot became a deputy judge as part of his formation to become a judge. As such he followed training as his wish was to one day become a Judge in the Common Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba. He functioned as a deputy Judge, but always under supervision of an established Judge. Paul van der Sloot was a deputy judge until March 2004. In March 2004 Paul van der Sloot traveled to Holland for a year and when he returned to Aruba in March 2005 he did not receive the required recommendation to become a Judge. The results of his training in Holland were not sufficient to become a Judge, and he was notified by the President of the Common Court of the Netherlands Antilles and Aruba that he cannot function as a judge and has to look for another function. A.M. finshed their bulletin with the following statement: 'We think that for the sake of correctness and objective news distribution, the media, and especially US media such as CNN and Fox News must stop sensacionalizing the entire Holloway drama and quit giving false information to the international public'

313 posted on 06/30/2005 4:01:30 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: spectre

"I'm the lead prosecutor and I want to show that we are not a bunch of cowboys here,´´ she said."

Well, what is it that she WANTS to show? Is this a show?
Is that what is driving her - trying to show us that can handle this case - or doing it because a crime was committed.
She SHOULD be embarrassed by that statement.

I'm hanging onto this.. "a lot of other evidence'

``We may have no physical evidence, but there is a lot of other evidence of what may have happened in this case,'' Twitty told the AP

and I'm praying God will guide the searchers in their search

THEN Beth, Natalee and family can leave that cesspool.

314 posted on 06/30/2005 4:01:52 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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To: Peach

Love those older men at pool parties...LOL...my bad.

315 posted on 06/30/2005 4:06:37 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: presently no screen name

I don't believe a word of what she says.

They are all a bunch of Zombies down there, including that little say nothing mouth piece, Marianne Croes, who would make a great replacement for Democrat Ann Lewis. Jeeze.

316 posted on 06/30/2005 4:11:00 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)

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To: presently no screen name

Just in at Fox - Shep says Greta has an interview with the Chief of Police.

sp

317 posted on 06/30/2005 4:13:01 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Newbie, PhD.)

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To: spectre

You noticed that, too.

318 posted on 06/30/2005 4:20:11 PM PDT by varina davis

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To: presently no screen name; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; brigette; maggiefluffs; ...

natalee-Aruba Bulletin Board opinions and speculations

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkle

Can somebody from Aruba (or who can read their language) please translate this for me http://archief.parool.nl/artikel?te...&SEC=%2A&FDOC=4

A pity that the whole news doesn't show...just a piece. Here the translation of that piece....(965 words)

'Natalee leeft niet meer'

Binnenland,dinsdag 28 juni 2005 (965 woorden)

Jan van der Straten leidt op Aruba het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van de Amerikaanse tiener Natalee Holloway. Hoop op een goede afloop voor Natalee heeft hij niet meer. 'Omdat ...

Natalee is not alive anymore. Jan van Straaten investigator in the missing American teenager NH. His hope in a happy ending for Natalee faded. Because.....

319 posted on 06/30/2005 4:22:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: sodpoodle

Greta has an interview with the Chief of Police.

And he'll tell us what?

Nothing.

But kudos to Greta for getting the interviews she has been.

320 posted on 06/30/2005 4:23:36 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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