Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Canadian Outrage

THAT New Judge was "cherry picked" by somebody for a reason

Wanted to ping you over to the new thread...

Yep, looks like there is no justice in Aruba.

201 posted on 06/30/2005 1:09:28 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: auboy

Kalpoe Family Denied Texas EquuSearch From Searching Around Their House
June 30th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->

Looks like everyone in Aruba may not be cooperating with the investigation. Makes one wonder why innocent people would not allow the search crews to look near their property. What do they have to hide?

Kalpoe Family Denied Texas Equusearch From Searching Around Their House (DIARIO 30 June 2005 page 3) [no byline]

The Texas Equusearch team came to Aruba, on request of the family Holloway, to try to locate Natalee who has been missing exactly 1 month today.

The Texas Equusearch Group received all cooperation from Aruba, so that they can use their expertise in search. They are going in various areas under the sea, but they are also using specially trained dogs to cover the areas around the dams that are around on Aruba.

Aruba definitely gave the Texas Equusearch group a big welcome.

However, unfortunately the group received a no welcome at the house of the Kalpoe family at Hooiberg.

DIARIO was also present, when on Wednesday, 12 noon, the Texas Equusearch team was in the area and was doing a search around the house. That way, the search can be done quickly and if there is nothing found, it can be deduced that there is nothing to be found.

But when they went to knock on the door of the Kalpoe family, [Texas Equusearch] received a You-Are-Not-Welcome-Here attitude. The mother of Satish and Deepak came out, and denied the Texas Equusearch team access on her property. Not even when they explained to her in a well-mannered way that the search would only make it clear that there was ‘nothing’ there, the denial stayed.

The Texas Equusearch group showed surprise by this attitude. They were not expecting to be denied access for this search.

More...

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/

202 posted on 06/30/2005 1:09:50 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: PBRSTREETGANG

LOL!!

203 posted on 06/30/2005 1:13:12 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: kcvl

Those Kal-poo-ey brothers (Nancy Grace's pronunciation, LOL) are in this up to their eyeballs. The mother's story has been designed to assist in the coverup.

Not allow the dogs on her property? In Heaven's Name, why not? Consciousness of guilt, perhaps?

Kal-poo-eys' mom said Deepak was often on the internet "all night". There is only one reason why a horny young man is on the 'net all night--pornography!

All three drugged and kidnapped Natalee to live out one of their internet fantasies. JMHO.

204 posted on 06/30/2005 1:16:38 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: kcvl

I heard that the mother was granted visiting rights to her sons by the new "judge". If her boys are innocent, seems like she would have welcomed a chance to scratch this property off the search list.

I figure PVDS is her "unofficial" legal adviser, too.

205 posted on 06/30/2005 1:18:09 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")

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To: brigette

To those who didn't see Charles Croes on the tube - these shots don't do him justice. You are missing the whole package. :o)
Thanks for posting them Brig

206 posted on 06/30/2005 1:27:01 PM PDT by daybreakcoming

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To: kcvl

I'm not surprised they were denied access. I've been suspicious of the kalpoe mom. Everyone making a big deal about depak and his car obsession. I think they had that set up, too, to explain why it was so-o-o clean. There are a couple other small things.

207 posted on 06/30/2005 1:27:49 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: texasbluebell

Urine alledgedly said "when she shows up, I'll kick her butt right in front of her momma for causing all this" - paraphrasing here.
I would like to kick his butt right into next week just for being a smartazz.

209 posted on 06/30/2005 1:35:35 PM PDT by daybreakcoming

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To: twigs

If Natalee drowned at that beach, her body would have washed up by now.

PVDS said "No body, no case" the very first week. He must have known the body had been taken care of. How would he know? He either assisted in disposing of it, or hired someone to do the dirty work.

Interesting that now Steve Croes admits to be sleeping aboard the Tattoo the night Natalee died.

That seems to be everyone's excuse--PVDS was sleeping, Mama Kalpooey was sleeping, Steve Croes, able seaman with boat access, was sleeping.

210 posted on 06/30/2005 1:39:09 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: Lizarde

Haven't heard of any Dad. They had plenty of time for family get togethers to work out their stories. With, of course, papa vansloot as coach.

211 posted on 06/30/2005 1:39:42 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Palladin

I've been thinking for a long time that authorities in several countries need to pull a coordinated raid on all C&C's. Just to check their "stockpiles". Especially, date rape type drugs. But the drugs may be being brought in by creeps like Juran. C&C's help does the rest.

So, maybe some stings by LE using undercover hot babes with immediate, on-the scene backup in C&Cs. Catch the local preps and the bartender/waiter/waitress redhanded. Who knows? Maybe management is involved also.

Oh course, all of the above depends on local LE giving a sh!+.

212 posted on 06/30/2005 1:44:40 PM PDT by auboy ("woof")

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To: auboy

She was told they'd get off if she cooperated. Everything is too pat. Like the mob. The DEA needs to put a hurt on their drug trade. It would hurt the right people, and possibly get info on Natalee.

213 posted on 06/30/2005 1:45:03 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Palladin

I don't think that the detail of them being at THAT beach is necessarily true; but I think that when you put together the bits and pieces of what we've been hearing, it's possible that she drowned somewhere. I hope not. I would still like to see her return alive, but I realize the odds.

214 posted on 06/30/2005 1:45:47 PM PDT by twigs

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To: Lizarde

does Depak have a Dad?

Early on it was reported that the Kalpoes' father was an Aruban businessman. However, he sure seems invisible to me.

215 posted on 06/30/2005 1:46:46 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG

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To: monkeywrench

#83 - Excellent point. The DEA should start super concentrating on all traffick to and from Aruba, searching every vessel and seizing their "economy"!!

There absolutely HAS to be something done about Paul Van der Sloot and the corrupt Judge that has been brought in on this case. He's an obstruction and disruption alright. He's covering for MURDER. And I'm not so sure HE isn't part of the body disposal.

216 posted on 06/30/2005 1:48:50 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Palladin

There is only one reason why a horny young man is on the 'net all night--pornography!

He could be a freeper, lol.

218 posted on 06/30/2005 1:53:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Canadian Outrage

Exactly, there seem to be too many with something to hide. This isn't about protecting some spoiled snot of a kid, "best friends son" or not. I don't even believe that anymore. This is all too pat (and clintonesque.)

219 posted on 06/30/2005 1:53:49 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Palladin

An addicted freeper.

220 posted on 06/30/2005 1:54:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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