Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

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Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

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(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
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From Natalee Holloway Online Forum:

From what I understand is that Fox News (cable channel) will air the press conference at 10:00 p.m. EST on the Greta Van Sostren show. This is not definite - just what I heard.

1,961 posted on 07/04/2005 4:37:10 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: onyx

>>but I am getting barked at...lol. I will NEVER move again and certainly not with this husband<,

I hear ya--Mine just retired in Nov. and we moved the end of Dec.

I can't even watch my TV. It's cowboys and war movies everyday all day....(sigh)

and he took over my checkbook

1,962 posted on 07/04/2005 4:37:48 PM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)

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To: onyx

1,963 posted on 07/04/2005 4:38:17 PM PDT by sissyjane (Silk pajamas for dress up, and flannel for everyday-perfect Freeper wardrobe!!)

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To: rolling_stone; Canadian Outrage

I sure hope you're both right. Poor little Natalee deserves justice.

1,964 posted on 07/04/2005 4:39:51 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: monkeywrench

Texcat, has it ever been stated what kind of medication Natalee was on and if it mixes with alcohol well? I have a strong feeling she wasn't able to drink much because of her meds.

Not to my knowledge monkeywrench. I don't know if Beth mentioned it to Greta in that interview when they were going through Natalee's purse or not.

1,965 posted on 07/04/2005 4:40:28 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: sissyjane

OMG! If that's what I have to look forward to, I'll take up a full time hobby... like drinking...lol.

Was yours short tempered during the packing phase?
Mine's behavior toward me cost him a pretty price the other day. He apologized by buying me a painting I have wanted for three years.

1,966 posted on 07/04/2005 4:41:24 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)

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To: onyx

LOL! Hubbys cannot appreciate what
we NEED TO SEE on tv when there's a
real mystery going on, yet my hubby
will spend hours watching phony
mysteries w/actors & scripts!

I just don't get it!!

I'll be glad when today's over, maybe
all the hosts/anchors will be back
where they belong.....reporting to
us! LOL

1,967 posted on 07/04/2005 4:42:46 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

I've got to go... I'll stay tuned.
Good thing today's a holiday...or I might be tempted to *file.*

1,968 posted on 07/04/2005 4:44:03 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)

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To: Canadian Outrage

And wouldn't you know, the Lord chose Easter to set both Laci and Conner on that shoreline and seal Scott's fate. He strutted around free for nearly 4months, arrogant as could be. But many prayed and HE heard and answered and Justice WAS done. Despite the MILLION dollar defense and the extremely unlikely washing ashore of those bodies.

Excellent! We need to continue praying for the Lord to provide mercy for the Holloways and Twittys, and justice for those responsible.

1,969 posted on 07/04/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)

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To: TexKat; monkeywrench

No, NH wasn't taking any medications.

If she was, Beth didn't say.

1,970 posted on 07/04/2005 4:44:45 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: sissyjane

Might I suggest another TV...say, on another level? Or, turn the garage into a "shop" for him, cable included. I'm tellin' ya, the more remotes you have, the better your chances of sanity!

He took your checkbook??? Where I come from that's a hangin' offense!

1,971 posted on 07/04/2005 4:46:27 PM PDT by blu (This post edited for brevity.)

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To: TexKat

Thanks. Somebody over at SM posting even more crap "rumors". Bartender at C n C's says this, someone said that---all making Natalee sound like a sloppy drunk. (Rumors I'd never heard anywhere, btw)

Someone also pointed out that a MB mom had worried Natalee may have "passed out". The poster snottily implying from drunkeness, but I'm wondering if she had insulin problems. She wouldn't be doing a lot of drinking if that were the case.

1,972 posted on 07/04/2005 4:47:02 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: the Deejay

There was talk early that Beth found her meds and passport and luggage in her room...but there was never any mention of what the meds were.

1,973 posted on 07/04/2005 4:48:10 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: the Deejay

Beth mentioned meds. I'm wondering if anyone had heard what they were.

1,974 posted on 07/04/2005 4:52:21 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Dark Skies

Missed the part about the meds......sorry.

Maybe allergy meds?

If Natalee had meds like for
Diabetics for example, I'm
sure Beth would have elaborated.

1,975 posted on 07/04/2005 4:52:30 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

she had only her drivers licence for ID with her, and some cash, she left her cell phone, some cash , and medication in her partially packed bag in her room according to Beth Holloway Twitty

1,976 posted on 07/04/2005 4:52:39 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: monkeywrench; Dark Skies; TexKat

Maybe the transcipt is on Greta's
blog about what Beth said was in
Natalee's hotel room.

1,977 posted on 07/04/2005 4:55:42 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

thanks for the update. If not tonight, then tomorrow. Personally, I would rather Beth get some rest BUT I don't think she can do that - another disastrous day for her.

1,978 posted on 07/04/2005 5:00:06 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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To: presently no screen name

Looks like both Nancy Grace and O'Reilly are repeats. Guess it will be the same for Greta later...

1,979 posted on 07/04/2005 5:03:53 PM PDT by gg188

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To: dc-zoo

It's a cool 103 here in south texas.

You lucky dog....

1,980 posted on 07/04/2005 5:07:34 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")

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