Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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Just a reminder that...
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(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

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It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
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To: Ditter

Well, come on over. Our hot weather is slow getting started this year. But when it gets going, it is hot!!

Poor Beth, she looks so thin and so devestated. I'm just sickened by this case. It just makes me crazy that there doesn't seem to be anything that anyone can do about this corrupt Judge and the VDS's and the corrupt officials and on and on. If it were my daughter, I'd be in the same shape. I feel so bad for them.

1,921 posted on 07/04/2005 3:45:08 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: the Deejay

LOL July 1st was Canada day and there were plenty of fireworks shot off here too.

1,922 posted on 07/04/2005 3:46:21 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Dark Skies

Bookmark.

1,923 posted on 07/04/2005 3:46:54 PM PDT by Otta B Sleepin

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To: dc-zoo

We are loving it at 75 degrees and no humidity here in Long Beach! Ahhh, those ocean breezes! Happy 4th!

1,924 posted on 07/04/2005 3:49:09 PM PDT by Yaelle

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To: the Deejay

That's way too hot to even imagine.

1,925 posted on 07/04/2005 3:49:26 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: the Deejay

That is what I would like to see. The President call all Americans home immediately. Then drop a few Daisy cutters. Wishful thinking I know but I'm so blinking mad. Sounds like the Aruban authorities are putting out a challenge either that or they are deliberately twisting the knives in Beth and Jug's guts.

1,926 posted on 07/04/2005 3:51:23 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Dark Skies

they'll sing like canaries.

Not sure about that - they still can be brought back in PLUS I believe there is someone/something bigger that they are all covering for - so anything out of their mouth, IMHO, is suspect.

1,927 posted on 07/04/2005 3:51:25 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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To: the Deejay

Oy-vey!! You must really be roasting. You DO have air conditioning I presume!

1,928 posted on 07/04/2005 3:53:19 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Canadian Outrage

I have been in Alberta when it was hot. No one had A/C or ice tea. LOL I have also been there when it was 20 below.

This Holloway case is frustrating and very sad.

1,929 posted on 07/04/2005 3:53:55 PM PDT by Ditter

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...they'll sing like canaries.

More than a little wishful thinking on my part. I thing they'll sing like canaries but I don't think they'll rat on Mr. Big (and there is a Mister Big).

1,930 posted on 07/04/2005 3:54:06 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Yaelle

75 and a breeze? We should all be so lucky.

1,931 posted on 07/04/2005 3:56:46 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: TexKat

the chaperones and why they are not speaking about what occured.

Strange that Aruba wants the chaperones to speak out - yet THEY tell Beth nothing.

1,932 posted on 07/04/2005 3:57:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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To: GarySpFc

Congratulations & Happy Birthday to new citizen, Mrs. GarySpFc!

1,933 posted on 07/04/2005 3:57:33 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")

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To: Yaelle

You are right. And that wasn't any legal advice. That was being complicit in a cover up of a crime. That was waaaaaaaaay over any line of advice. He should be charged with accessory after the fact unless he is part of getting rid of the body himself. HE is the one that called the meeting and told these boys that THAT was the story they needed to stick to. I'd like to know how HE knew there would be no body found??? It had gone through my mind over and over. What if Natalee were in a freezer or something on VDS's property and then in the middle of the night, they arranged a boat and took her with weights and dumped her? Just surmising but this thing stinks so bad!! PVDS is right in the middle of this thing.

1,934 posted on 07/04/2005 3:58:43 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Canadian Outrage

You DO have air conditioning I presume!

You presume correctly! We have 2 central air conditioners. One for each side of the house.

This is a big sprawling ranch-style and it requires 2 big units.

1,935 posted on 07/04/2005 3:58:51 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: presently no screen name

"Strange that Aruba wants the chaperones to speak out - yet THEY tell Beth nothing."

Typical lefty tactic.

1,936 posted on 07/04/2005 3:59:00 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: TexKat

that pic says it all.

He knows he's untouchable, it seems.

1,937 posted on 07/04/2005 4:01:08 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: texasbluebell

He knows he's untouchable, it seems.

Sometimes justice does prevail despite laws..I remember Al Pacino in And Justice for All...he rats out a bad judge despite lawyer client priveledge..I sure hope Joran doesn't steal more chain than he can swim with...

1,938 posted on 07/04/2005 4:04:09 PM PDT by rolling_stone

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To: the Deejay

Good, you can stay comfortable then. We have a three level house. We do have central air conditioning but the bottom two floors are still more comfortable than the top floor. Only good thing is, is that it cools down at night and because we are just up the hill from the lake, we get a nice breeze at night.

1,939 posted on 07/04/2005 4:05:32 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: the Deejay

Ouch! Just can't imagine.

1,940 posted on 07/04/2005 4:06:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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