Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: kcvl

I wish someone would have B'atched slapped her ass. NSNR

1,821 posted on 07/04/2005 2:09:46 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat

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To: Rippersnapper

They said there was to be a presser
w/BETH at 2:00 PT.

1,823 posted on 07/04/2005 2:10:38 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

Survival. The mind protecting the spirit.

1,825 posted on 07/04/2005 2:11:45 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights

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To: Fred Nerks

Jeez Fred I'm having the same problem. I couldn't get on the computer on the weekend so I'm hundreds of posts behind. I am trying to speed read to catch the drift. I did watch some Fox reports on the weekend but with company and yard work and all I had very little time.

1,826 posted on 07/04/2005 2:12:15 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: Lizarde

I hear ya.

W/out Amber and all those
damning tapes....I think
Snotty would have walked.

1,827 posted on 07/04/2005 2:12:59 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

What happened to the Press Conference? I'm ready for the SHIT to fly!!!!

1,828 posted on 07/04/2005 2:14:56 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)

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To: TexKat; All

John Gibson is working today.

No day off for him.

1,829 posted on 07/04/2005 2:14:59 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: MAWG

No idea! And I am angry, b/c it
looks like FOX got their wires
crossed and misspoke. grrrrrrr......

Beth will surely be on FOX tonight
w/Greta, perhaps?

1,830 posted on 07/04/2005 2:16:34 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Ditter

Does Natalee have any siblings? I hope for Beth's sake that Natalee isn't her only child.

1,831 posted on 07/04/2005 2:17:26 PM PDT by surrey

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To: Lizarde

I think originally they were going to ahve it earlier but the Idaho story had a conference at the top of the hour. I think that might be why the other one got pushed back.

Ok by me, it gives more time to get their material together and get themselves calmed down. They must be irate.

1,832 posted on 07/04/2005 2:17:27 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: Rippersnapper; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Aruban Judge Frees Two Holloway Suspects - Fox News

Lawyers for the Kalpoe brothers told reporters prosecutors had requested permission to hold the brothers for another 60 days but presented no evidence.

"They did not present any new evidence against my client," said one of Satish's lawyers, Elgin Zeppenfeldt. "I believe they'll have to let him go because it's getting harder and harder to hold him."

Ruud Oomen, a lawyer representing Deepak Kalpoe, echoed that sentiment.

"The further we get, the more it shows my client had nothing to do with any crime," he said. "What was presented [in court Monday], in my view, was beneficial to my client."

Van der Sloot's lawyer, Antonio Carlo, would not comment on whether investigators had presented new evidence against his client, but he said a judge did approve a motion letting attorneys be present during interrogations. Carlo said previous motions requesting a lawyer's presence had been denied.

"It's important for me to say again today that my client maintains his innocence," Carlo added.

The Kalpoes' mother, Nadira Ramirez, expressed hope for her sons' release as she waited outside the courthouse along with a handful of curious tourists and hordes of news media.

"We are hoping and expecting them to be released because they are innocent," she said. "They don't have any evidence against them."

1,833 posted on 07/04/2005 2:18:07 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: MAWG

No mention of a presser on Fox. Maybe Beth was talked out of it. Or wasn't up to it?

Wonder why Beth was so sure the Kalpoes were involved? Maybe they were, what with the cleaing of the car and those careful stories from elder Sloot. But maybe accessory after the fact is not a crime in Aruba.

1,834 posted on 07/04/2005 2:18:10 PM PDT by Yaelle

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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Mr. Groene said LE told him
not to ask her any questions.

But what if Shasta suddenly
starts spilling over w/things
and starts telling her dad
where she'd been, etc.?

Kids do that.

1,835 posted on 07/04/2005 2:18:47 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: surrey

Does Natalee have any siblings? I hope for Beth's sake that Natalee isn't her only child.

She has a brother named Matt. She also has a couple of step-siblings.

1,836 posted on 07/04/2005 2:21:13 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: Yaelle

No mention of a presser on Fox. Maybe Beth was talked out of it. Or wasn't up to it?

That could be and would be understandable. The could also be waiting for Greta to return. Or it is still coming up.

I would think they would be held, even if for a lesser crime. Kidnapping or rape. If Natalee was murdered, the brothers may not have had anything to do with that. But, that's a big IF because nothing has been presented to indicate that she is dead.

1,837 posted on 07/04/2005 2:23:20 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: TexKat

I am sure the press will be calling the Kalpoes nonstop for interviews once they are out. Do you know when they are expected to be released?

1,838 posted on 07/04/2005 2:24:02 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

The thing that irks me the most is this: What possible INNOCENT explanation could ever be made ffor Paul Van der Snoot stating that "no body, no case"??? If he's already talking about bodies then there must have been one. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE ELDER VDS being released. He's GUILTY!!, His BRAT IS GUILTY And this thing STINKS it's so rotten. The cherry picked corrupt Judge from the corrupt island of Curacao has been brought in SPECIFICALLY to "take care" of the principals of this case. I'm convinced that Aruba SHOULD BE BOYCOTTED.

1,839 posted on 07/04/2005 2:24:04 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)

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To: the Deejay; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

After the media reported that the Kalpoes were released and that Joran would serve 60 more days Fox News also reported that the Holloway, Twittys would do a press conference in 2 hours.

I guess that they were mistaken, the time was changed, or someones changed their mind.

1,840 posted on 07/04/2005 2:25:32 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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