Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: GarySpFc

Congratulations to you and our new American.

She was thrilled says it all! "Proud to be an American"

1,781 posted on 07/04/2005 1:27:35 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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To: kcvl

"Other broadcast reports say that Joran van der Sloot still has not been charged. According to those on the island, he was seen smiling and joking in the back of the police car as he left the courthouse to head back to prison."

Seems he knows that there really is no evidence against him. And that the brothers finally got the story straight. POS

1,782 posted on 07/04/2005 1:28:39 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: demkicker

Have you heard any news on the Equisearch Team today? Last I heard, they had come upon something very curious, like several drums in the ocean.

Matter of fact I have. And just as everything else in this case, contradicting statements. Mr. Huston of Equusearch interviewed on Fox News earlier today stated that Aruban LE was very cooperative and things were just fine.

1,783 posted on 07/04/2005 1:29:09 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Jrabbit

No jury system in Aruba.

Judge is judge & jury.

1,784 posted on 07/04/2005 1:29:37 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: kcvl

Thanks. Just more reason for Joran to be smiling.

I think that once a perp is released, the defense gets to see what evidence the prosecuter was using to have them held. I wonder if the Twitty/Holloways will get to see this info?

1,785 posted on 07/04/2005 1:31:00 PM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: TexKat

Tim Miller of Equusearch interviewed on Fox News
the other night, blasted all Aruban
non-assistance. The Marines included.
Miller said he & his team aren't concerned
w/anyone else's help. Equusearch is going
it alone. To hell w/the Arubans.

1,786 posted on 07/04/2005 1:32:32 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Malichi; Carolinamom; the Deejay

I do not believe Joran was wearing a vest. The other 2 were definitely not wearing vests.

1,787 posted on 07/04/2005 1:34:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Jrabbit

From what Jug said one night,
we are getting more info than
they are.

So, that tells us how beside
themselves they must be.

1,788 posted on 07/04/2005 1:34:24 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

I do not believe they have vests
in Aruba.

1,789 posted on 07/04/2005 1:35:46 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Jrabbit

"Seems he knows that there really is no evidence against him."

The phone call. Beth is certain. No doubt she called aruban authorities with her suspicions before she ever got there. They did nothing, and by the time she arrived, Natalee was gone. Very damning.

1,790 posted on 07/04/2005 1:36:57 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: the Deejay

"Judge is judge & jury."

Must be part of living on Happy island: no jury duty.
It's going to be a lot easier for one judge to be influenced by backroom maneuvering than a panel of jurors.

1,791 posted on 07/04/2005 1:38:30 PM PDT by Voir Dire (I'm seeing and saying.)

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To: the Deejay

Tim Miller of Equusearch interviewed on Fox News the other night, blasted all Aruban non-assistance. The Marines included. Miller said he & his team aren't concerned w/anyone else's help. Equusearch is going it alone. To hell w/the Arubans.

Yes, I am well aware of what Mr. Miller said. I watched it 3 times. However, evidently Mr. Miller and Mr. Huston of Equusearch are not on the same page, because Mr. Huston painted a much rosier picture earlier today. I guess it has something to do with the Aruban air.

There is another search and rescue group (Northest Search and Rescuse out of NY) that should arrive in Aruba sometime this week.

1,792 posted on 07/04/2005 1:39:13 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Voir Dire

Not only that, but Aruba likely
realizes they can't trust a jury
of the people to do make a
decision to their liking.

1,793 posted on 07/04/2005 1:41:07 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: demkicker

i don't think Arubans realize how their little island paradise is being destroyed.

They think things are ok because tourist are still coming....but The folks who are still visiting Aruba were already booked, it's not like people who have saved up for a trip will cancel.
The proof will be in a drop off of new bookings.
Compound this horrible publicity with the predictable book or movie and Aruba will be done for decades. If they are lucky Aruba will survive as a low-rent sex-tourism place and cheap spot for drugs

I really can't believe they would put their entire economy in peril in order to protect some 17 yr. old punk and his daddy. There has to be more to this than meets the eye.

1,794 posted on 07/04/2005 1:42:31 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht

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To: the Deejay

Thanks to all for keeping those of us without cable informed!

So, what time is the press conference?

1,795 posted on 07/04/2005 1:43:43 PM PDT by Abigail Adams

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To: TexKat

Remember when they said, 'possible more arrests'.

1,796 posted on 07/04/2005 1:43:46 PM PDT by presently no screen name

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To: monkeywrench

The phone call. Beth is certain. No doubt she called aruban authorities with her suspicions before she ever got there. They did nothing, and by the time she arrived, Natalee was gone. Very damning.

Unconfirmed. I read somewhere yesterday that the phone call was Natalee, saying something in the effect of I don't know these people.

According to some on SM there is quite a bit of info in People Magazine, but I am not sure whether it is in the past,current, or future issue.

1,797 posted on 07/04/2005 1:43:53 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: TexKat

Hmmmmmm.....

Can there be dissention amongest
the Equusearch Team? Or are
they just not on the same page?

1,798 posted on 07/04/2005 1:45:07 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

I'm basically going by the C. Croes interview.

1,799 posted on 07/04/2005 1:46:08 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: Abigail Adams

The presser should be coming up at the top of the hour.

2:00 PACIFIC TIME.

1,800 posted on 07/04/2005 1:46:29 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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