Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

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Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
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(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

All the legal commentators are basically saying to the family "sit down, shut up, let Aruba do it's job."

They should all sit down and shut up! They all have a different excuse for criminals. It's as if no matter what they are always defending the criminals and saying screw the victim and their families! I'm sure they wouldn't sit down and shut up if it was their family member.

1,721 posted on 07/04/2005 12:40:36 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: dc-zoo

But his face looked much fuller
as well.

1,722 posted on 07/04/2005 12:40:38 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: TexKat

Only the fat chick is taking
notice of him! LOL

The slim ones aren't looking,
not even out of curiosty?
Too funny!

1,723 posted on 07/04/2005 12:42:17 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

I agree he did look diffent in yeterday's photos. The only photos they released were from a distance also.

1,724 posted on 07/04/2005 12:42:57 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: dc-zoo

That's what I was thinking. I guess the arubans take their own "cowboy" propaganda seriously.

Actually, it was reported at least a week ago that the vnds had a window broken out, and aren't even living in their house anymore.

This info came out at the time their media was showing pics of flowers (3 arrangements)and food being delivered to the house. Their media didn't mention the rock delivered through the window.

1,725 posted on 07/04/2005 12:43:24 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: monkeywrench

I think the "Sloots" have skipped the country.

1,726 posted on 07/04/2005 12:45:30 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: monkeywrench

Is Geraldo still there? IMO he has degraded the reportage. Greta's show tonight should be interesting.

1,727 posted on 07/04/2005 12:46:18 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)

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To: TexKat

SM:

Live Statement being read by the court reporter.

The Judge has released immediately Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. Joran has been kept for 60 days, but will be able to have his lawyer present during interrogations.

Rumor:

This just came in but it makes a great deal of sense so I am passing it on. I do not have confirmation but I wanted to pass it on.

Joran’s attorney will file a motion for reconsideration (appeal) of the judge’s decision today. If the lack of evidence that forced the release of the Kalpoe brothers is true , we can expect the motion may be successful. This would mean Joran van der Sloot could be released by next weekend.

1,728 posted on 07/04/2005 12:47:40 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: the Deejay; Jrabbit

Re: J's appearance -- I wonder if he's wearing a bullet-proof vest. Someone has commented on his long sleeved shirts too. Maybe hiding some sort of protection.

1,729 posted on 07/04/2005 12:47:43 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: dc-zoo

Just what I was thinking.

1,730 posted on 07/04/2005 12:49:37 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: Carolinamom

I don't know if either one is still there. I believe Greta said something about Tuesday.

1,731 posted on 07/04/2005 12:49:48 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: spectre

I wish Beth would come back to the States, and go on Larry King, Fox, Oprah, Good morning America...etc., to tell her story.
I know she doesn't want to leave the island without her daughter, but she might accomplish more on friendly ground.

I'm so sorry for the whole family.

I know what you mean, sw. I can't imagine Beth having to stay in Aruba for 60 more days and then watch as Joran is released. My heart aches for the family.

1,732 posted on 07/04/2005 12:51:04 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: the Deejay

His face does look fuller. He looks older too. Hmmm.

1,733 posted on 07/04/2005 12:51:27 PM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: dc-zoo

Coul;d be they fled. I've wondered. But, without their little urin?

1,734 posted on 07/04/2005 12:51:35 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: kcvl

Of course there will be an appeal for JVDS. The fix is in and this move is likely the only reason he wasn't released today as the Judge knows the 3-jugdge panel will reverse today's decision.

1,735 posted on 07/04/2005 12:51:57 PM PDT by dc-zoo

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To: TexKat

Holloways are now meeting with an attorney.

What's your take, TexKat? Do you think they're going to spill some beans?

1,736 posted on 07/04/2005 12:52:21 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: texasbluebell

I'm not sure if they even have
bullet-proof vests in Aruba.

Not all countries have same
as Western countries. They
play by their own rules.

I have noticed, over this past
month, no one bothers w/seat
belts, either. Some of the
cars didn't have seat belts.

1,737 posted on 07/04/2005 12:53:10 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: kcvl

This is not good. Those Kalpoe brothers are at the very least accessories to the crime. They assisted in the kidnapping; possibly they provided the drugs.

Will Deepak get his job back at the cybercafe?
If so, he'd better watch his back.

I bet both of these slimeballs take off for Surinam at the soonest possible moment.

Look for Joran to walk two months from now.

God damn Aruba!!!

1,738 posted on 07/04/2005 12:53:11 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)

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To: texasbluebell

Natalee Holloway chat room...

http://www.natalee-holloway.com/chat/

1,739 posted on 07/04/2005 12:53:31 PM PDT by kcvl

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To: demkicker; TexKat

Twittys have an Aruban attorney.
Don't think she's willing to
risk her future, helping them
spill any beans.

1,740 posted on 07/04/2005 12:54:57 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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