Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Lizarde

I wouldn't doubt it....

1,641 posted on 07/04/2005 11:39:26 AM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: TexKat

1,642 posted on 07/04/2005 11:39:30 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: xsmommy

wonder what the twittys will do now?

They've said that they know more than what they've said up 'til now. And that what they know is sickening. If they schedule that presser, it'll probably be to spill some of it and embarrass the Aruban government.

1,643 posted on 07/04/2005 11:39:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)

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To: xsmommy

I just don't know....I'm befuddled. Reasonable suspicion and Joran can appeal. I think if I'm Beth, I start screaming!

1,644 posted on 07/04/2005 11:41:06 AM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: Carolinamom; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

The question is whether the brothers' have had their passports confiscated....according to Dutch law....who knows?

Carol McKinley said that that will be the questions that they will be asking.

Also Carol states that if Joran is detained for these 60 days the case will go to court according to Dutch law. Joran is still not charged, he is being held under reasonable suspicion. Carol states that Joran is a teen that is very confident of himself.

1,645 posted on 07/04/2005 11:41:45 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: xsmommy

I think they should talk. They aren't getting anywhere anyway, and two of the suspects have just been released. The 'cowboys' bluff has just been called.

If they don't get anything definitive against Sloot, I say he walks after the 60 days. BUT, who knows, maybe his laywer will appeal and he will get out soon.

I think they may as well spill the beans. They have nothing to lose, they are not getting justice anyway.

1,646 posted on 07/04/2005 11:42:23 AM PDT by Rippersnapper

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To: mewzilla

At this point, they really have nothing to lose. The perp isn't gonna talk and it looks like Natalee won't ever be found. Just pathetic!

1,647 posted on 07/04/2005 11:43:18 AM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: kcvl

Having a set number of days w/out additional evidence before he can be charged gives Joran an incentive to hold out. Damn Dutch law; it encourages that smug smile on his face.

1,648 posted on 07/04/2005 11:43:47 AM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)

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To: TexKat

Carol states that Joran is a teen that is very confident of himself.

And Carol said that his friends say he is out all night gambling and drinking. Did his mother and father lie to us?! /sarcasm

1,649 posted on 07/04/2005 11:44:06 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: kcvl

You think? Mr. VDS hid the body well....

1,650 posted on 07/04/2005 11:45:15 AM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: kcvl

Brothers released immediately....garbled whatever she said about Joran

1,651 posted on 07/04/2005 11:46:42 AM PDT by Jrabbit

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To: kcvl

Have the crypts in the graveyard near the Sloot's house been investigated? I still think that would be a good and convenient place to "hide" a body.

1,652 posted on 07/04/2005 11:46:44 AM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)

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To: Rippersnapper; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...

Live Statement being read in front of the courthouse by the Aruban court clerk.

Detention of the Kalpoes is over. Joran shall remain in custody for another 60 days.

1,653 posted on 07/04/2005 11:47:01 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Carolinamom

Court clerk is reading decision...Kalpoe brothers will be released immediately, Joran held for 60 days, lawyer is prohibited to be present at the hearing as of today.

I don't know which lawyer she was referring to in the last sentence.

1,654 posted on 07/04/2005 11:47:12 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: Rippersnapper

you're right, with the potential of him appealing and getting out, i say go for it.

1,655 posted on 07/04/2005 11:47:55 AM PDT by xsmommy

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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; Rippersnapper; ...

Holloways and Twittys to have a press conference in 2 hours per Fox News.

1,656 posted on 07/04/2005 11:48:52 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: mewzilla

Twitty press conf in about 2 hours, from Carol McKinley.

1,657 posted on 07/04/2005 11:50:13 AM PDT by texasbluebell

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To: Carolinamom

Have the crypts in the graveyard near the Sloot's house been investigated?

Yes, the search team did that almost immediately because they were told by locals those should be checked.

Beth is deciding whether to hold a news conference with the information they have. Natalee's family is furious!

1,658 posted on 07/04/2005 11:50:40 AM PDT by kcvl

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To: kcvl

Wouldn't the Kalpoe brothers be considered accessories? How could they be permitted to leave the island?

1,660 posted on 07/04/2005 11:52:19 AM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)

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