Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Yaelle

Stupid question: I suppse this means that text messages can be retrieved?

1,481 posted on 07/03/2005 9:11:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)

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To: BunnySlippers

Good question. Can the actual text messages be retrieved, or just the log of time and date of each call, and the number to which it was sent?

1,482 posted on 07/03/2005 9:26:57 PM PDT by Palladin (God Bless America!)

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To: spectre

If anything happens to Beth or Jug this countries only income would be drug trafficking.

1,483 posted on 07/03/2005 9:49:40 PM PDT by doc

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To: the Deejay

I liked how the three suspects spent their 10 or 11 days of freedom searching for Natalee. NOT!

1,484 posted on 07/03/2005 9:54:14 PM PDT by doc

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To: NCjim

The state department needs to put pressure on Aruba to give these suspects polygraph tests. All this crap would be over in 10 minutes.

1,485 posted on 07/03/2005 10:00:34 PM PDT by doc

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To: Palladin

I once asked Cingular about this and was told that they have NO record of the actual message only the time it was sent. However, it may be retrieved from the phone's memory but that Cingular wouldn't do it.

1,486 posted on 07/03/2005 10:07:48 PM PDT by Malichi

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To: gingersnaps

I doubt that she was kidnapped. Teenagers are normally out of control, now throw in alot of booze and possibly drugs. Natalee did not want to go all the way and things got out of hand.

1,487 posted on 07/03/2005 10:15:36 PM PDT by doc

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To: the Deejay

that she is alive, held by someone who is pimping her out. (you did ask).

"Wellll.....let's see.... Aruba has had time to search every hut, house, dog house, nook & cranny a few times over to find where she's being kept."

Some of the earlier rumors said she was being moved from house to house.

1,488 posted on 07/03/2005 10:24:07 PM PDT by MonaMars

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To: Malichi

It seems like in the last several months, either IM's or Text messages were retrieved some months after being sent. But I can't quite keep track of all the trivia that I see online.

I would imagine that deep in the bowels of cell phone computer systems, messages are actually logged and can be retreived--but the folks at the store level/and or customer service level don't know how or who to go to for that service.

1,489 posted on 07/03/2005 11:37:33 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)

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To: toldyou

When I get home

Are you home yet? :)

1,490 posted on 07/04/2005 12:51:41 AM PDT by presently no screen name

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placemark

1,491 posted on 07/04/2005 3:24:39 AM PDT by freeperfromnj

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To: txrangerette

Interrogate the family? You mean, they know something that they are hiding, that would help them find Natalee? You mean they don't really want her found, so they would have to be interrogated to get the information out of them?

How about: Because they know Natalee better than anyone else? Did she know/ have contact with anyone on the island before she went to Aruba? E-mails, chat rooms, IM before she left? Had she called/ msg'd home while she was in Aruba? If so, did she mention anything unusual? Were there any notes, e-mail addresses, etc. in her luggage, in her purse gathered while she was in Aruba? How much money did she take with her? What medications, if any, did she take? For starters.

The parents can provide valuable information for the investigators. I get the impression that you think questioning the parents has to be an adversarial situation. There are certain to be uncomfortable questions like: Do you know or have reason to think that she was sexually active?; Was there friction in the relationship?; How did she get along with her stepdad.... But these questions and others all go to establishing background and it is stuff that investigators need to know. For all we know, the questions may have been asked & answered. OTOH, we know that her purse isn't in the evidence locker at police HQ, so maybe not.

Care to link up the van der Sloots and the Kalpoe brothers with these people who kidnapped her for revenge reasons against her family?

Context is everything. I was replying to another poster and the point was that there may not be a linkage, referring back to Greta's comments about it possibly was a mistake to put all the eggs in one basket. Please backtrack.

1,492 posted on 07/04/2005 4:39:08 AM PDT by elli1

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To: elli1

1,493 posted on 07/04/2005 5:48:50 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)

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To: toldyou

I'm at a friend's house....no mouse, and I'm struggling to type this. When I get home, I'll send all I have regarding tales of Carlos and Charlies and law enforcement in Aruba. It's scary!

Please ping me also.

1,494 posted on 07/04/2005 5:51:52 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: Landry Fan

Oh, I never heard specifically why they arrested PVDS

So LE could plot strategy with him and help thwart the investigation even more while making it APPEAR legitimate. (That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it)

1,495 posted on 07/04/2005 5:55:24 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: Palladin

It makes me want to slap that smarmy Ruben Trappenberg silly! He is the biggest liar on the island.

I agree 100% & concur with your Anne Frank remark too!

1,496 posted on 07/04/2005 5:59:18 AM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)

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To: TexKat

Thanks for the updates; we had a lot of lightening yesterday so I wasn't able to follow the thread much.

1,497 posted on 07/04/2005 6:07:47 AM PDT by Peach

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To: Peach; All

Per FOX right now: the 3 suspects have now arrived at the back of the court house....in separate cars. We'll know whether they're released or not soon.

1,498 posted on 07/04/2005 6:25:00 AM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)

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To: Carolinamom

I'll be listening from the other room; have to be away from the computer.

1,499 posted on 07/04/2005 6:27:35 AM PDT by Peach

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To: All

This is a MUST-READ about what happens in the bars in the Bahamas. It give you a good idea of how easy it would be for someone to prey on young American girls.

Too much 'fun'?
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/04/Worldandnation/Too_much__fun_.shtml

This would be a good article to post as a separate thread, if anyone wants to do it.

1,500 posted on 07/04/2005 6:38:25 AM PDT by Nita Nupress

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