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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4
Link to previous Natalee Holloway Thread ^ | 6/30/05 | freepers

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:31:27 AM PDT by stlnative

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To: texasbluebell; TexKat

I work with a number of Europeans and have contacts scholars in Europe. Your assessment of English is spot on, it is the lingua franca of the world and it doesn't matter if we Americans know 1 language or 5, everyone else is learning English.

To show you how prevalent English is, not only are the journal articles in my field in English (which means that if you want to keep up w/the research from around the world, you have to read English), but research units and even academic programs have switched from using their native language and now use English as their common tongue. So, if you are a Dutch student taking a masters degree at a Dutch university, you may well have to do it in English. Especially in the EU, it seems it is just easier for everyone in academe to use English when they get together.

I'm still learning Danish tho; might as well have something to fill my time when I'm not FReeping.


1,401 posted on 07/03/2005 3:06:02 PM PDT by radiohead (Proud member of the 'arrogant supermagt')
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To: elli1

Jug had business in corrupt venezuela. Who knows what he may have stumbled on down there. I think "interrogating" him would only benefit chavez.


1,402 posted on 07/03/2005 3:06:52 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: texasbluebell
Yes, poor Joran..boo Frigin whoo..

All those girls in bikini's but he may be on his way to being another man's (bleep) for the rest of his life.. My heart bleeds.

sw

1,403 posted on 07/03/2005 3:19:13 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: radiohead
everyone else is learning English

I bet this angers the French.

1,404 posted on 07/03/2005 3:22:31 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: toldyou
Thanks for sending me back to read what the story was like at the very beginning in that link. Did you notice HOW MANY tourists found it very strange and uncomfortable in Carlos & Charlie's with reference to very heavyhanded pickups by seemingly organized groups of local men? And how they preyed on young, pretty Americans?

Do you think maybe our loose culture and dress, coupled with our naivete, are perhaps not appropriate outside our country (and sometimes in it?)? The world is a different place. Some of those underworld types in other countries probably look at our daughters like pieces of meat, and frankly the way some of them dress helps them visualize it all too easily.

I saw a svelte neighborhood teen on her way to a party last night in a NEW slutty style; have you all seen this one? Her spaghetti strap top was quite long enough, no midriff, BUT her mini skirt started at low plumber cleavage level. Thus through her thin white cotton shirt could be seen two mounds of buttocks squeezing out of the top of her skirt deliberately. Covered, yes, but showing an awful lot of junk overflowing the trunk.

1,405 posted on 07/03/2005 3:24:10 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: radiohead

bump!!


1,406 posted on 07/03/2005 3:25:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Yaelle

" Do you think maybe our loose culture and dress, coupled with our naivete, are perhaps not appropriate outside our country "

American culture isn't as loose as France, Italy or Amsterdam with it's red light district. Joran comes from a country where his peers are a heck of lot looser than their American counter parts by a long shot.


1,407 posted on 07/03/2005 3:28:08 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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Did anyone hear the report on CNN about two hours ago that Jug Twitty said if any of the three are let loose tomorrow he is going to tell what he knows and it is horrible?


1,408 posted on 07/03/2005 3:34:58 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (If you're LURKING and reading you should be DONATING to the FReepathon!! Go Jr ~8~)
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To: Lizarde

Is the east side of the island the one with the sharks? Did that note that supposedly was written by Deepak give any clue when he said that Natalee had wanted to go see the sharks?


1,409 posted on 07/03/2005 3:35:57 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: SunnySide

You have a point there!


1,410 posted on 07/03/2005 3:37:44 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Ditter

I have smelled skunks.

Not since moving to Nevada though.


1,411 posted on 07/03/2005 3:46:41 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: ncpatriot

Actually, my son has been to europe a number of times, and he said everywhere he goes there are people that want to practice their English on him. Including the french.


1,412 posted on 07/03/2005 3:47:49 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: WestCoastGal
I heard Jug say the other day, if the 3 are released, he & Beth will go home and then will "tell all".

Promise you, whatever he has to say about Aruba, will not be shock & awe to me.

1,413 posted on 07/03/2005 3:49:33 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: monkeywrench
All the non-English speaking countries I've lived in, they ALL want to learn English.

Because it means a better job position.

That's why I cannot understand why there's so much Spanish pushing here. Even in Mexico, they want to learn English!

1,414 posted on 07/03/2005 3:53:13 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: WestCoastGal; the Deejay
Why doesn't Jug come back to the States and THEN tell all he knows?

sw

1,415 posted on 07/03/2005 4:00:35 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: monkeywrench

In Russia English is the second language.


1,416 posted on 07/03/2005 4:04:37 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: spectre
Yes, poor Joran..boo Frigin whoo..

All those girls in bikini's but he may be on his way to being another man's (bleep) for the rest of his life.. My heart bleeds.

Dutch law does not punish wrong-doers in the way that they do in the U.S. For an adult (not a minor like Joran) that commits the equivalent of 1st degree murder, the sentence would be less than 20 years, of which, the defendant would serve approx. 14 years. In a case like this, if convicted, the Kalpoe bros. may be looking at 6 - 8 years. Joran, since he's a minor, he may only be looking at serving until he's 21 yrs. old. IF they are convicted and that's a big IF!!!

1,417 posted on 07/03/2005 4:24:23 PM PDT by '61 Libertarian
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To: spectre
Is threatning to 'tell all' while they are still in Aruba a smart thing? We have heard that some really bad stuff is going on there. If it is true, the drugs, money laundering etc. telling all is going to step on some powerful toes. Too late now, Jug already said it.
1,418 posted on 07/03/2005 4:29:40 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: '61 Libertarian; Ditter
Oh darn..I really don't expect Joran to be convicted of anything. It was just wishful thinking ..:(

Ditter, I agree. That was not wise of Jug to say that, but I assume he feels he is protected, and knows what he is doing. I wonder if Geraldo knows what this is all about? Hummm?

sw

1,419 posted on 07/03/2005 4:44:29 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre
That's what he said, when he comes back to the US, he will tell us about the real Aruba.

Can't tell us from there, b/c he, too, could go..... missing.

1,420 posted on 07/03/2005 4:44:33 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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