Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 4

PVDS = Paulus (Paul) van der Sloot (Joran's Father)
AVDS = Anita van der Sloot (Joran's Mother)
JVDS = Joran van der Sloot - 17 year old suspect
DK = Deepak Kalpoe - 21 year old suspect
SK = Satish Kalpoe - 19 year old suspect
MSM = Main Stream Media
Beth or BT = Beth Twitty (Natalee's Mother)
Jug or JT = Jug Twitty (Natalee's Step-Father - married to Beth)
Nat or NH = Natalee Holloway
GVS = Greta Van Susteren (FOX)
VDS = van der Sloot
LE = Law Enforcement
SG or SG's = Security Guards
MJ = Mickey John's (Security Guard)
SC = Steve Croes (Boat Deejay)
CC = Charles Croes (Owns Rental Cell Phone Co)
BOR = Bill O'Reilly (FOX)
NG = Nancy Grace (CNN)
HNN = Headline News Network
CNN = Cable News Network

Show/Interview Transcripts

Former Aruba Suspect Alleges Plot!
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 28, 2005

Transcript: Greta in Aruba
INTERVIEW WITH NADIRA RAMIREZ, SATISH AND DEEPAK KALPOE'S MOTHER
INTERVIEW WITH ANITA VAN DER SLOOT BEFORE PAULUS VAN DER SLOOT IS ARRESTED
INTERVIEW WITH RUFO SOLOGNIER, STEVE CROES' UNCLE
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 23, 2005

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 22, 2005

Beth Twitty: 'My Daughter Has Been Kidnapped'
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 22, 2005

Natalee's Friends Go 'On the Record'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 21, 2005

Natalee's Mother Won't Leave Without Her
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 20, 2005

Natalee's Stepfather Holds Out Hope
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 16, 2005

Holloway's Mother: 'My Daughter is Alive'
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 15, 2005

Tragic Trip?
This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," June 15, 2005

Searching for Natalee
This is a partial transcript from "Hannity & Colmes," June 8, 2005

'On the Record' Exclusive
This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," June 7, 2005

Some case info to go along with this map...
(as far as I know this is all correct)

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

The Island is 6 to 7 miles deep by about 20 miles long

B-1 = California Lighthouse - where the boys claim they took her first after leaving the Bar.

D-3 = #4 is the location of the 2 Marriott Hotels - where the 2 brothers (and now Joran) claim they dropped Joran and Natalee off after leaving the lighthouse - the 2 brothers claim they went home to Hooiberg after that.

D-3 = #19 is the location of the Holiday Inn where Natalee was staying.

G-5 = Where the red #2 marker is pointing to is the area that the Carlos & Charlie Bar is located

D-4 = Township of Montana is where Joran lives

F-7/8 = Hooiberg (Haystack Mountain) - The 2 Kalpoe brothers live in this area at the foot of the Haystack Mountian.

C-9 = By the Natural Bridge on the map is the location where the sharks hang out as they are fed at this location. This is the Shark Infested Feeding Area.

E-3 = Wetland in the Bird Sanctuary is the location where they found the Condoms/Condom Wrappers - Duct Tape (looked like black electrical tape to me) - Female Flowered Panties - and a String or Strap from a Bikini or Halter Top.

PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD
LARGE PICTURE FREE FOR DIAL UP ISP USERS.

I am asking that everyone either post just a link to the pictures they wish to share or reduce the size of the picture when you use the img src tag.

This will help greatly for us who are on Dial-up.

Examples

Just a link to a picture like this...(this is the simplest method)
http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

or reduce this image size like this (you need to know HTML to do it this way)

I DO NOT HAVE A PING LIST AND I DO NOT WISH TO MAKE ONE

Just a reminder that...
THIS IS A NO LARGE
PICTURE POSTING THREAD
(please do not post large pictures on the thread - small pictures are fine - as well simple links to the pictures)

This is a discussion thread about the daily occurrences in the Natalee Holloway Case.
It is located in "Chat" on Free Republic
It is not a thread for bashing Natalee - Natalee's Family or Natalee's Friends.
It also is not an ongoing discussion thread for any other cases.

TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: allnatalieallthetime; arrestedpaulvds; aruba; compulsive; corruption; croes; daterapedrug; deepak; dutch; fubaruba; ghb; holloway; joran; kalpooiesgohome; kidnapped; mafia; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; obsessive; ocd; roofies; satish; sloot; tourism; travel; vandersloot

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To: Dark Skies

i agree, you are right on about the ears.

1,181 posted on 07/02/2005 3:35:53 PM PDT by xsmommy

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To: Dark Skies

Thanks. The eyebrows are different too, now that I see them together. I was just to lazy to post a side-by-side.

1,182 posted on 07/02/2005 3:38:33 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (Does Anita van der Sloot suffer from Carolyn Condit syndrome?)

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To: Dark Skies

The ears are different. Check it out.

1,183 posted on 07/02/2005 3:39:03 PM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)

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To: Carolinamom

The nose is definitely different. SC has a pug nose.

1,184 posted on 07/02/2005 3:41:36 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)

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To: Dark Skies

I, too, think it is not the same guy. Some superficial similarity, but when you get to the details, they're all wrong.

1,185 posted on 07/02/2005 3:42:15 PM PDT by txrangerette

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To: TexKat

The nose is definitely different.

Absolutely.

1,186 posted on 07/02/2005 3:48:03 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: Sunshine55

I had to look pretty closely to decide. As I said, they look enough alike to be brothers. But then you get to the ears.

1,187 posted on 07/02/2005 3:54:55 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: TexKat

I think steve croes was just sent in as some kind of message to the 4 liars. I don't know what, though.

1,188 posted on 07/02/2005 4:02:49 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: monkeywrench

Steve Croes is a fool to go out of his
way to involve himself in something
very serious.

He should realize that by now.

1,189 posted on 07/02/2005 4:28:32 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

Unless not involving himself would have been too costly in some way to him. Who put him up to it?

1,190 posted on 07/02/2005 4:34:13 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: monkeywrench

He tried to be a hero and
save the locals. IMO.

Wanted his 15 minutes of fame.
Not realizing he would end up
in the slammer.

1,191 posted on 07/02/2005 4:47:06 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

In all due respect, we don't know his motive and the solution of a crime is always based on determination of motive (unless there is an eyewitness).

1,192 posted on 07/02/2005 5:10:53 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

I'll grant you, we don't know his motive
but talking w/Greta, he seemed very
embarrassed and felt stupid he'd
done such a thing.

He didn't witness anything. He just lied,
by saying he "saw" the trio drop her off
at the HI.

Not a scintilla of truth to it.

1,193 posted on 07/02/2005 5:13:44 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

I disagree. Time will tell, hopefully. (we know the aruban govt. won't) I think there's a whole lotta coverup going on.

1,194 posted on 07/02/2005 5:20:15 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)

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To: the Deejay

I think his motive might have been the maintenance of the party line (island line, that is). I would like to know how it is he came to know that line and who told him (as regards the alibi he provided). This is a small and vy dirty little island. They are hiding many dirty secrets.

I hope the lid gets blown off. At least the truth is getting out.

Paradise? More like hell! Looks good on the outside but is a cesspool of evil.

A long time ago, I had friends that used to go there...they called it "Amsterdam in the Caribbean" because of the easy drugs and sex. It is corrupt.

1,195 posted on 07/02/2005 5:21:57 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: Dark Skies

No kidding.

Jug Twitty said at the FRONT DOOR,
people were smoking POT.

Said he's never smelled it before,
but it certainly wasn't just
"cigarette smoke."

1,196 posted on 07/02/2005 5:30:10 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: monkeywrench

If SC ever gets arrested again.....
I will take back my statement.

However, I DO see the trio going
free.

More & more people are saying
same, too.

1,197 posted on 07/02/2005 5:31:55 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)

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To: the Deejay

said he's never smelled it before...

Surely that isn't so. Has he been hiding under a rock. Smells like skunk. That is disturbing but I guess it is possible some folks in Alabama are that sheltered. He obviously didn't attend college.

1,198 posted on 07/02/2005 5:35:03 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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To: TexKat

What is the creepy guy on the left doing. That look...ughh!

1,199 posted on 07/02/2005 5:35:57 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry

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To: Fred Nerks

Freddie, come over here and solve this heart breaking crime. Many good brains over here. News and evidence hungry brains...

1,200 posted on 07/02/2005 5:39:38 PM PDT by Dark Skies

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