Pope Set To Return To Traditional Liturgy

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[Lady In Blue]

Pope set to return to traditional liturgy:-

VATICAN CITY | June 19, 2005 5:11:27 AM IST

Pope Benedict XVI wants to restore the traditional ceremonial Mass in St. Peter's Basilica, with Latin instead of the vernacular and Gregorian chants.

Vatican expert Sandro Magister reported in his weekly newsletter Saturday that the pope is expected to replace Archbishop Pietro Marini, his predecessor Pope John Paul II's master of liturgical ceremonies.

Whoever follows Marini will have orders to restore the traditional style and choreography of papal ceremonies in St. Peter's.

Out will go the international Masses so dear to Pope John Paul II's heart, with such innovations as Latin American and African rhythms and even dancing, multi-lingual readings and children in national costumes bringing gifts to the altar.

Pope Benedict wants to return to the Sistine Chapel choirs singing Gregorian chant and the church music of such composers as Claudio Monteverdi from the 17th century. He also wants to revive the Latin Mass.

Archbishop Marini always planned the ceremonies with television in mind, Magister said, and that emphasis will remain. A decade ago the Vatican set up a system for transmitting papal ceremonies world wide via multiple satellites.

(UPI)

[ninenot]

Fr. Zuehlsdorf is a very good man.

[ninenot]

Common sense will have no effect on some, HermCher.

I have 8-year-olds who 'catch on' to Latin...it's NOT a problem, except for "those who WILL NOT hear..."

[Dominick]

There were only two possibilities: either McCarrick gave it to her...or the Holy Office.

I thought a lot about this.

I doubt McCarrick opens his own mail. I doubt he files his own mail. I doubt he is the only one in possession of a key to the file. That is even assuming that the files are locked. People working in that office may have seen the letter, and heard the lie.

At that time, there is a chance to uphold the Truth, and expose a lie, a lie that was leading to desecration of the Sacred Species.

We don't know where the letter originated. I would doubt the Holy Office would leak it. This does not confirm Magister as a resource of insider information.

[Pio]

Yes, the vernacular has really balkanized the Catholic faithful especially in the cities...it has really protestantized us into little sub-congregations. Perhaps, an uninted side-effect but a side effect no less.

We need to stop paying attention to Irish, sodomite, liberals. They are a mere fraction of the Church and have caused great harm over the past few decades E.g. Law, Mahoney, Egan.

[ninenot]

The Gentlemen's Club has now stored approximately 10 full cords of wood.

We also have these newfangled "lighters," which will speed the ignition process.

All we need is a few, ah, volunteers...

[ninenot]

A literal translation of the Salve Regina would be less fluid in English. Remember, too, that this is 'devotional,' not dogmatic...

[AnAmericanMother]

Certainly, there are easier ways to get lime jello recipes from the Minnesota Lutherans.

Just so long as it isn't lutefisk . . . . < g >

[ninenot]

Or, in the language of my vaterland:

Uber-iniquitous...

[ninenot]

A most interesting theory.

Belloc regards Mohammedanism as a Heresy--your reading would support that.

I rather like Torquemada's and Ferdinand's solution, myself.

[BlackElk]

That the restoration of the Tridentine Mass will not cure ALL ills does not mean that it will not cure MANY ills. It should be restored with appropriate provision for those wedded to Novus Ordo. Chasing poofters from our seminaries and pulpits and chanceries will not cure ALL ills but it will cure many and we ought to do it. Proper translations of rubrics to English at Novus Ordo Masses, likewise. Rigorous catechesis, likewise.

Abortion is a separate issue from liturgy. I represented without fee 1100 people arrested in militant sit ins to shut down abortion mills. I would have done it one way or another whether I was attending Novus Ordo or Tridentine Masses. In fact, one week before the worst incident of mass arrests and brutality against my clients, I was attending a Latin Novus Ordo Mass, reverently said daily at a retreat house. The heroism of the clients did not end all abortion in the USA but Planned Parenthood conceded that many scheduled abortions interrupted by sit-ins would not be rescheduled. The ten or fifteen kids who lived and were saved on that brutal day will live an average of 75 years or so. They will get to exercise free will. They will be able to do good or ill. They will not have been murdered in the womb. Not a perfect solution to everything but better done than not.

If I say only one prayer to God this week, I do not create a prayerful world or even a thoroughly prayerful me but the prayer is worth saying. Better done than not. Maybe next week it will be two prayers and eventually a rosary a day. better done than not at every step along the way.

[Regina]

Whoa, BlackElk!!! Ratchet it back a few notches. You definitely have me confused with some other Freeper. I am merely suggesting that JPII was not the best administrator in the world...never said he was an invalid Pope, etc. You are inserting lots of ideas in my post that were not there. Not that I owe you this info, but I am a Catholic in good standing, always have been, always will be. You might want to examine your own conscience regarding kindness to others.

[TaxachusettsMan]

Since when has any Pope consulted schismatics like yourself before making personnel decisions?

You've put yourself out of the Church. Gone. Finis. Kaput.

And we couldn't be happier!

[Romish_Papist]

I have yet to find a RCC document that condemns anyone to hell.

[BlackElk]

The Mass of our ancestors said in the language used for the Masses of our ancestors is the high mark of our civilization and God's way of saying: "Veto! Come back home."

NYer has the privilege of attending Mass in the Aramaic language spoken by Jesus Christ Himself. So, I believe, does Sandyeggo.

In His love for you, Christ offers you the graces you need so that you may enjoy the privilege of loving him back now and forever.

Your last sentence reveals His communication of love to you and bears repeating as often as possible (perhaps in a Church at perpetual adoration in the presence of Christ in the Eucharist???? Maybe on your knees when putting every trouble and wound and woe you have ever known or suffered in His hands which know suffering so well?????)

Pater noster, Qui es in coeli, sanctificetur Nomen Tuum. Adveniat regnum Tuum. Fiat voluntas Tua.....

[ninenot]

Better question: aside from Bugger Bugnini and his close, 'personal' friends, who woulda thought that turning the Catholic Church into a modern-day Babel was a good idea?

And, yes, I DO attend NO Masses, in Latin, English, and Spanish. And yes, I ALSO attend the local Indult...

[ninenot]

I've thought about it too.

The Holy Office has a number of young-Turk US priests working there--any one of which could have been more than a little PO'd about McC's blatant lie.

Leaks happen, usually in righteous anger (even though it's likely a matter for confession...)

[ninenot]

You still don't know how to read, eh?

[ninenot]

I have yet to find a RCC document that condemns anyone to hell.

...although the "anathemas" were certainly suggestive...

[Logic n' Reason]

You go, Pope!

[dangus]

>> If anyone says...the mass ought to be celebrated in the vernacular tongue only...let him be anathema. <<

Of course, you would mean to point out the context of that quote, which is the Protestant assertion that the Latin Mass was ineffectual, because the worshippers did not necessarily understand what they were praying.