Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Didn't answer my question directly, but since I cannot speak freely of the death merchants in society -- peace I'm outta this circle jerk for the self-described sane and open-minded freedom of speech loving inhabitants of this SBR thread.
Get out a little more often.
Food for thought. Has Greer ever made a mistake in this case?
It's all in what kind of effect you want to have. Clearly, using emotionally charged launguage like 'death merchant' is on par with using a term like 'baby killer' or 'jackbooted thug'. It doesn't lend to rational discussion, but instead seeks to provoke another emotional response.
But, I would be interested in discussing the idea with you. The idea of a 'death merchant', i.e. one who would profit over someone's death, seems illogical, since there's much less money to be made off of the dead than the living.
(On a related note, I work in what you could call a 'death industry', but we don't profit off of the dead. In fact, we lose billions of dollars each and every year.)
Thank you Long Cut for this thread...I just got online a short while ago, and already this thread has hundreds of posts...will take me the rest of the afternoon to read everyhing...glad that you were able to post this..
HEADS UP EVERYBODY:
Dan Abrams reported on MSNBC that the Schindlers will send you a photograph of their daughter in her hospital bed, wasting away. If you send them $100.
Yes. You heard that right. $100 for a picture of a dying Terri.
Happy to answer your question, but its a little too cryptic. Clarification please.
In the meantime, you might take a stab at the two questions on the table to you.
Have a nice day!
You got that right. And I see the same old group of people starting this crap of, I'm "in the group" and your not. Yes, the same kind of crap you dealt with in high school does not end once you leave there.
You will notice a pattern around here....someone "in the group" will state an opinion and the rest of the robots will follow suit and parrot the same line....
Ignore these people....it is best not to follow the crowd.
I mean, come on, the WPPFF????? give me a break!
Hperbole and inflamatory speech are his tools and his friends.
You cannot be serious??
That is just appalling.
Well, I'll be. I may have to rethink my potential 'death merchants' conversation with Kryptonite. I may have been mistaken.
Ah. Thanks for the clarification. In my opinion, yes.
Now, the two questions addressed to you ....
I am absolutely 100% serious. I wasn't going to type it here because I thought surely I misunderstood.
Freeper sinkspur heard it as well so I felt comfortable reporting it here.
The next time I hear someone tell me that these people love their daughter, I will have to walk away from the computer.
These are the people who admitted under oath they would not remove the tube even if they knew that's what she wanted.
And now this?
It's obscene. And I would come back to haunt whichever family member did this to me.
I have been upset, as a woman who takes pride in her appearance, that Terri, who was a pretty girl, is had her videos and photographs in this state plastered around the world.
I guess, if you want to hold to the strict definitions, this is murder, not euthanasia.
Quiet, you, I recognized that it was not appropriate and apologized for it already.
I am speechless.
You should have seen the look on Dan Abrahm's face. I think he was shocked.
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