Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Bump for sanity.
Some, more than others. ;)
Just out of curiosity, do you two believe that the state should be vested with the power to decide whether to continue care for a comatose or PVS patient?
So this is where all the sane people have been hiding!
There isn't much logical discussion, so participation has dwindled.
Not off hand. I'm at work so it's hard. But the case was Biersack, back in December. I'll try to find it later. Mrs. Biersack had no living will but they ruled that witnesses were enough. They do still require 2 doctors to agree on the diagnosis, et.al.
I'll question your manifesto's statement that TS threads do not warrant participation as long as it exists.
I've had several of your disciples tell me exactly the opposite today when I urged them to venture outside the sbr.
But yet, here they have signed on with their own sbr manifesto living wills. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
I wonder, can I use "death merchants" on this thread, without being insulted as an insane, emotional moron? Or do I have to actually prove that there is a death industry in America that is very pleased with the prospects for future business right now, before I can use "death merchants"?
Because this is not euthanasia.
Welcome to a thread where rational discussions can take place......how are you?
I'm a fan of Chad too. I don't feel that I got binged, banged, or boomed. Don't be ridiculous.
Thanks. That should be enough to go on (all hail westlaw).
yeah, but what about "death merchants"?
Thanks for the bump!
Thanks for the bumps!
I already have one outstanding question to you, but I'll add another for the heck of it. Were the doctors and medical administrators who made the decision in the Sun Hudson case "death merchants"?
Do you believe has never made a mistake in this case?
lol
So... we're criticized for engaging in "group think" (#730), and now we're criticized for thinking for ourselves.
Can you guys make up your minds?
Oh heck ..... I wann watch what they do in bed.
Yikes. I didn't care for the guy but may he rest in peace.
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