Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Rose Colored Glasses.
"Oh, I support the military, being a vet myself.
I'm just trying to figure out why I should go out of my way to stand up for people on this forum, when I'll probably end up getting my teeth kicked in for a difference in opinion by them in the future?
Get back to me when you have an answer for that."
1st of All
Thank You for your service to our country.
2nd of All
The military support threads are neutral territory on FR
I've yet to see anyone attacked because of what
they might believe on other threads.
If you run into this, ping me.
Key sentence here:
In such a suit, the District Court shall determine de novo any claim of a violation of any right of Theresa Marie Schiavo within the scope of this Act, notwithstanding any prior State court determination and regardless of whether such a claim has previously been raised, considered, or decided in State court proceedings.
The problem is that Gibbs brought no such suit.
Interesting. So Congress took out the language mandating temporary injunctive relief, but then tried to sneak it in the back door by filing a brief asserting this "really" was the will of Congress. Unfortunately for the Schindlers, the court didn't buy their argument.
If this truly were the will of Congress, they should have left it in the bill in the first place.
Well, it has nothing to do with what occurs on those threads. I don't think, at this point in time, that I could add anything constructive, so...
:0)
It's ridiculous. I hadn't realized it was quite THAT bad until I read your post this morning.
D'oh!
JR has fired up the Freepathon machine. This should be interesting.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375684/posts
Congress could not mandate that Gibbs and his backers act with honesty and integrity.
In the endgame phase, it was never about Terri Schiavo.
It was about Randall Terry wanting to play the role of Gerry Adams for the Army of God folks.
From your freepmail to me:
Dear Cyncooper,
I'm afraid I was the one who hit abuse on ******* post to you calling Ann Coulter a bitch who she despises and that Ann does "our cause" no good.
While it certainly let me know just who the WPPFF club is, I did not want Ann Coulter to possibly see the post.
Sorry,
katnip
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That one post did not let you know just who the "club" is or was.
What "club"...not meant in a disparaging way? I report, you decide.
I would have not brought it up publicly until you decided to appear on the scene egging on another basher and now adopt this wide-innocent act and dare to call me a liar.
See ya
Congress mandated a de novo hearing. It did NOT mandate temporary injunctive relief. The motion that the Schindlers filed with the 11th Circuit on March 21, 2005, was for a temporary restraining order. It was this motion which was denied by Whittemore.
BRAVO!
Good for you cyn.
I delete mail after I read it and reply.
Maybe that's a mistake in some cases.
Correct.
LOL. So my post to another Freeper who was very polite telling him I would read his posts after one of the "club" told him to go away is egging on?
You're a liar. Post where I've disparaged anyone.
I'm not taking sides, I just would prefer that your disagreement does not degenerate any further. Thanks.
Well, how about when you said "You're a liar."? ;0)
We have a winner!
In addition, anyone with any sense in Congress (I'm not sure who that includes) would know, with certainty, that the kind of de novo review folks around here were looking for was not going to happen in a day, or even in a matter of days. I know a lot of folks here seem to think that the Courts had nothing else to do except sit around and wait for filings in this case, but getting time for trial, getting witnesses under subpoena, bringing in experts, etc. takes time. Had the Court undertaken, on its own, to conduct the kind of proceeding folks here claim should've happened, they'd still be getting ready for it.
Party pooper ;o)
Don't call other posters liars unless you have proof. She is not a liar.
Hi Long Cut. I kept the bad behavior private. Please do not try to admonish me for making it public.
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