Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
I'm watching and they are not confirming death yet.
They are to pray the Rosary now.
I'll check it out- thanks for linking!
Why is that?
I was on vacation the last 8 days, away from all computers and most news... otherwise, I probably would have checked in here sooner.
The bill did not change existing law governing the granting of temporary injunctive relief. Frist confirmed that.
On the contrary, they acted within established law. Your complaint is that they DIDN'T act outside of established law.
A urologist? ;o)
And I thought it was a musical opus.:-)
That's that Christian love flowing from them. Pick on the kids.
This was the pertinent part:
Basically, the court weighs where the balance of the harm falls. District Judge James Whittemore found that the weight of the harm fell overwhelmingly in favor of ordering that the tube be reinserted. Without it, Schiavo would die.
But the rules also require a finding that the party asking for the order would likely prevail on the legal issues. And that, given the actual scope of the review Congress directed, was the problem.
It's that "sins of the father visited upon the children" thing, dontcha know. Just feel the love.
No, Frist asserts two separate things, first that no Law is changed, then he asserts that it is fairly evident that because of what the bill requires She must be kept alive....and as i pointed out in order to have that be the actual state of things you need to rely on First speaking casually, and Reject Santorum speaking casually, and the Main men behind the legislation briefing the Court on it.
Going further if Whittemores decision isnt activism what is?
In Count 6 or 7 he asserts that they have no claim against Hospice, because Hospice is following the Order of a State Court, he then in Count 10 rejects the Substantive Due process claim, because there is No State actor?
You have to read Whittemores decision to actually appreciate what an underhanded pr!ck he is. it is posted a bit back on this thread.
I am appalled by your comments and examining my own.
It has been redemptive.
Thank you.
Urologist.
Oops - you beat me to it!
60's Peace Activist Apologizes to Vietnam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1375568/posts
This is what happens when people don't support our military.
That ignores EVEN THE PART THEY QUOTED from Frist and Levin, that says, I would expect her to be Kept ALIVE. WHich was the status quo. Nope, No Activism to see here...move along.
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.
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