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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: .38sw

What I really hate wearing black sometimes, though. So difficult to keep clean...


3,741 posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:53 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I did, and got an hour suspension.

Figures. "Thou shalt not question the mod." No matter how overbearing they are at the moment in question.

3,742 posted on 04/01/2005 7:42:56 AM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: Doohickey
Apparently, if you're not demanding scourges for all involved you're not trying hard enough.

Scourages would be mild compared to some stuff I saw. Ugh.

3,743 posted on 04/01/2005 7:43:02 AM PST by .38sw
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To: mhking

Well, yeah. I get accused of a buttload of vile stuff, return the venom by calling them a Newbie, a I get told to "Knock it off". Of course I'm going to question that. I mean, duh!

But, if thats the way they want it, well, I'm free to leave anytime I want... It's still not out of the question either...


3,744 posted on 04/01/2005 7:44:44 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Sure you can trust the government... just ask an Indian...)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
An hour? Isn't that more like "time out"?

Now I feel "lucky," because I don't think your retort was particularly more defiant than mine.

An aside - a few days ago, I was considering a little test: to write the most inane, over-the-top hyperbole laden post I could come up with - just to see how quickly a large segment of the main forum would jump on the bandwagon. I even thought of coming up with some vile new accusation - unsourced, of course - just to see how quickly it would spread to other threads.

Unfortunately, I am simply not creative enough to come up with anything that even rivals some of the crazy stuff I've seen here. If I had been able to craft something like the "ham sandwich" post, I'm sure I would have judged it to be too obviously fake, and tried to tone it down a bit.

Shows what I know...

3,745 posted on 04/01/2005 7:46:03 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Good old Norfolk. I was in CSS-8, though.


3,746 posted on 04/01/2005 7:46:29 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Chad Fairbanks; .38sw

There's something about a woman in jackboots, though...


3,747 posted on 04/01/2005 7:47:22 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: mhking; Chad Fairbanks; All
I'm not going to jump on the mods. They've got a thankless job right now, and one can only imagine the stress going on behind the scenes. I'm sure they've got their divisions among themselves, as well.

All we can do here is try to make their jobs easier by NOT engaging in the flamewars. I don't want them to have ANY excuses to pull this thread or ban any of us over this.

Make no mistake, that's one of the goals of the trolls that show up here.

3,748 posted on 04/01/2005 7:48:25 AM PST by Long Cut (Threadbearer for the Fellowship of the Wild Turkeys)
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To: Long Cut

USS Batfish (SSN-681), USS Narwhal (SSN-671), USS Seahorse (SSN-669) and USS Atlanta (SSN-712). Oh, and I was MTS as well, at NAVSUBSCOL.


3,749 posted on 04/01/2005 7:48:52 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Long Cut
i thinks we have several mods on this thread

at least one anyways

3,750 posted on 04/01/2005 7:50:06 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: Doohickey

Jackboots. Only.


3,751 posted on 04/01/2005 7:51:25 AM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

hehe


3,752 posted on 04/01/2005 7:51:43 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: Doohickey
"Oh, and I was MTS as well, at NAVSUBSCOL."

Where was that? I went to IT school at King's Bay. Got to take a tour of the TENNESSEE down there. I was fascinated by that boat, even though the skipper had a few "digs" for us P-3 guys when he saw us.

I've done my tours at Brunswick NAS here in Maine (where I'm at now) and NAS Jacksonville at the RAG.

3,753 posted on 04/01/2005 7:52:12 AM PST by Long Cut (Threadbearer for the Fellowship of the Wild Turkeys)
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To: lugsoul

Okay, I guess this is inevitable... Will it be called "Schindler's List"?



ROFLMAO!!! Brilliant!

Ham sandwiches for all!


3,754 posted on 04/01/2005 7:55:06 AM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: Long Cut; mhking; Chad Fairbanks; Peach; .38sw; retrokitten; yall

Good monring y'all.
A warm, sunny, summer-like day here so
I "hope" I have the willpower to spend most of it outdoors.

Forget their lists!
Here's one which I hope will put smiles on your respective faces.






I really do love this country, but...

1. Only in America... can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.

2. Only in America... are there handicap parking places in front of a skating rink.

3. Only in America... do drugstores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.

4. Only in America... do people order double cheese burgers, large fries, and a diet coke.

5. Only in America... do banks leave both doors open and then chain the pens to the counters.

6. Only in America... do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and put our useless junk in the garage.

7. Only in America... do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.

8. Only in America... do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight.

9. Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.

10. Only in America... do they have drive-up ATM machines with Braille.





3,755 posted on 04/01/2005 7:55:15 AM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Long Cut

NAVSUBSCOL New London, CT.

We dig at P-3C crews because Orion is about the only ASW platform that scared the crap out of us.


3,756 posted on 04/01/2005 7:55:36 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Long Cut

nice. is that really your car?


3,757 posted on 04/01/2005 7:55:46 AM PST by Asphalt (Three can keep a secret if two are dead.)
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To: onyx

LOL!!! That is very cute.

And I have to say...I only had a diet Dr. Pepper with my donut this morning because they were out of milk in the vending machine. ;-)


3,758 posted on 04/01/2005 7:59:58 AM PST by retrokitten (I heart Tony Snow)
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To: Long Cut; Chad Fairbanks
I'm not going to jump on the mods. They've got a thankless job right now, and one can only imagine the stress going on behind the scenes. I'm sure they've got their divisions among themselves, as well.

Oh, I'm sure they do, and this isn't to lump onto them by any stretch. But there are those among the mod ranks who are pretty quick on the trigger finger (and who even suspended me twice - once for posting a Palkot article, and then again after a sarcastic remark on my return).

3,759 posted on 04/01/2005 8:00:53 AM PST by mhking (If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!)
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To: Doohickey

Wow!

Thank you for your service to our country!

:-)


3,760 posted on 04/01/2005 8:03:06 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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