Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Don't feed the trolls!
A strict interpretation of our founder's statement says that all of the openly hostile posts in this thread by WPPFF aimed at the pro-God and pro-life Freepers (members in good standing, who are adhering to FR's stated philosophy), are in direct opposition to what our Founder declared above.
Hmmm... we do have frauds and impostors among us.
You assume that people are anti-God and anti-life because they don't agree with you on everything. How arrogant.
If you have a specific post or several posts direct your comments to them.
Refrain from falsely accusing others.
Your constant hate-speech is quite illuminating about you and it's no surprise you choose to cloak yourself as a person of God when your rhetoric reveals you are anything but that. You do not speak the language of the truly pro-life.
It's not a club and the discerning poster may call names where applicable. The complaint is about unwarranted attacks.
Yes, I missed where Barry advocated outright lying in order to attain what one wants...But that poster traffics in rank deceit.
~shudder~
The name calling was not warranted, but I don't care a bit about it really. The only reason I mentioned it was because of this high-minded baloney in the opening of the thread. I say, let the fur fly (within reason).
;-)
BRAVO
You often (rightfully) ask for documentation for verification. Well then where is your documentation on her "coaching"?
What in the world is wrong with that? Do you trust folks more if they advertise in/on such fabulous truth-tellers like CBS or Newsweek or TIME magazines?
It was typical FR commentary and not the phenomenon decried at the top of the thread.
Exactly.
Man, you're going to bury them with your logic. ;-)
You know Sink, the simple fact of the matter is that this goes way beyond Terri Schindler.
Nigh on 50 years ago, the ISS went to Argentina to kidnap a man they eventually hanged.
His response, to the charges "I was only following the Law"
Yet the World judged him guilty for, in following the law as a mid level bureaucrat, he exercised no Morality or Conscience.
He never pulled a trigger......
That mans name was Adolf Eichmann.
When this woman dies, a large part of what this country is will die with her.
You assume that people are anti-God and anti-life because they don't agree with you on everything. How arrogant.
And you had no problem when someone described Ann Coulter as a bitch.
You'll notice my criticism of Catherine Crier focused squarely on comments she had made and not her appearance or personality, yet you popped in to talk about her thin lips.
Fine and not at all what the thread was talking about, but why you're getting all in a knot about someone calling Pat a fool and then pretending (I know you're pretending) that it violates the principles espoused in the manifesto is beyond me.
I'm not into hyperbole, Hobbes. If you want to discuss the facts of this case without waving the swastika, we'll talk.
fair enough
Your constant hate-speech is quite illuminating about you and it's no surprise you choose to cloak yourself as a person of God when your rhetoric reveals you are anything but that. You do not speak the language of the truly pro-life.
Now it's time for you to be specific, as you just implored the poster. What specific posts are you talking about of his/hers?
Search his name.
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