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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; RGSpincich

Don't feed the Trolls.


2,341 posted on 03/30/2005 7:48:49 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: AmericaUnited

But, you can't point me to the testimony, or the court document proving this. In my mind, this is just simple SLANDER. How good of you.


2,342 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:25 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: Howlin

OK, got it set to record...thanks


2,343 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:31 PM PST by Rheo
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To: Dominick

Dang, I forgot....


2,344 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:38 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: annyokie

BREAKING- The SCOTUS has turned down the Schindler's request.


2,345 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:39 PM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: annyokie

I just remembered the recent issue Crier was ranting about: The Jeff Gannon business.

She had the leftist blogger on and she was calling Gannon a "White House plant", etc.

Very irresponsible.


2,346 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:40 PM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: Howlin

I will be sure not to miss it...it comes on here again at midnight, so I will have my midnight snack, and enjoy the fight...looking forward to it...


2,347 posted on 03/30/2005 7:49:51 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Howlin
she cleaned their clocks and left Buchanan babbling at the end.

Pat got in that somewhat nasty zinger at the end, "Why didn't you bury her then (15 years ago)."

Crier is always great.

2,348 posted on 03/30/2005 7:51:01 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: SE Mom

As I think most of us thought would happen...I know this is really breaking their heart, and I do feel so badly for them...


2,349 posted on 03/30/2005 7:51:34 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: beyond the sea

It was a pathetic response........she left him drooling.


2,350 posted on 03/30/2005 7:52:28 PM PST by Howlin
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To: annyokie
Pat is a fool.

I thought you, as a member of this little club, were not to stoop to calling names.

2,351 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:05 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: Dog Gone
Frankly, I'm disgusted with the topic.

2,352 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:19 PM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: andysandmikesmom

It's almost 40 minutes long, I think........she came on sometime in the first half........first she slammed Joe around and then took on him and Pat.

Whew, remind me not to cross her.


2,353 posted on 03/30/2005 7:53:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: cyncooper
Crier said Terri's "been gone for 15 years".

That is a scary statement, and emotional as well, having come after the debate turned toward the politics of using executive power. The law on the point of when someone's wish to die can be enforced is continuing to develop. New standards are evolving. Right now I'd say we're somewhere between the standards applied to Terri a few years ago to pull her tube a few weeks ago, and euthanasia.

2,354 posted on 03/30/2005 7:54:22 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: cyncooper; All

USSC says no.


2,355 posted on 03/30/2005 7:54:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
I always find it interesting when people talk about who are the "true conservatives," and how the rest of us are just pretenders or wannabees...

The only person here talking about "true conservatives" was the person you addressed your curious complaint to.

2,356 posted on 03/30/2005 7:54:57 PM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: cyncooper
she was asked about security at courthouses (in the wake of the Atlanta shootings) and she said "it's all about money", there's never enough money spent on security. How intellectually lazy if not outright dishonest. They had technology that was not taken advantage of (like live video cams that were supposed to have two people monitoring and they failed to do so), not to mention the poor decision making of allowing a petite female to be the sole escort of a huge alleged rapist.

right.

2,357 posted on 03/30/2005 7:55:25 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: McGavin999
I'm grateful there are as many transcripts and motions to read as it is....wish the media would read some.

I wish you well MCGavin

2,358 posted on 03/30/2005 7:56:07 PM PST by Rheo
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To: cyncooper

She speaks her own mind and not an agenda. That's why I love her. Party line marchers can stand back as far as I am concerned.

I have taken the side of Dems on some issues in the past. I have issues with GWB cutting short his vacation to sign some foolish piece of legislation that would never go anywhere for his Governor brother's sake. That doesn't mean I don't love GWB, I just think it was foolish.

FWIW, I despise Ann Coulter. I think she is a harsh bitch who does our cause no good.


2,359 posted on 03/30/2005 7:56:20 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: Howlin

Glad to hear that it is that long...I am looking forward to this...make some popcorn, and watch the fight...


2,360 posted on 03/30/2005 7:56:24 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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