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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Howlin
The usual. Death camps. Slaughter of innocents. Political murder. I think it included a reference to Stalin too. Isn't it surprising how many otherwise level headed conservatives here are allegedly in complete agreement with historical evil-doers (Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Lenin, Amin, Pol Pot, Goldfinger, you name it)?
1,761 posted on 03/30/2005 2:24:41 PM PST by atlaw
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To: annyokie
You are the one that said Terri Schiavo is dead. I want to know what minimum level of functioning you require for someone to be alive, please. I am not fighting with you. Just seeking some clarification.
1,762 posted on 03/30/2005 2:25:18 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: Howlin

Praying!

I also read most of the threads...but was not about to become embroiled in a name-calling, free-for-all.


1,763 posted on 03/30/2005 2:25:22 PM PST by justshe (Become a monthly donor; eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: spectre

She is brain damaged, not brain dead.


1,764 posted on 03/30/2005 2:25:43 PM PST by Scarlet7
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To: atlaw

Well, I was just wondering if you were under house arrest......LOL.


1,765 posted on 03/30/2005 2:26:04 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Yes. So what does that mean?


1,766 posted on 03/30/2005 2:26:54 PM PST by Scarlet7
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To: Scarlet7
"She is brain damaged, not brain dead."

What's the clinical difference?

1,767 posted on 03/30/2005 2:27:09 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Scarlet7

It very well could mean that she didn't do it and they don't want you to see it.


1,768 posted on 03/30/2005 2:27:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: verity

plenty of difference, clinically and legally.


1,769 posted on 03/30/2005 2:27:56 PM PST by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: NautiNurse

What does a flat EEG mean?


1,770 posted on 03/30/2005 2:28:38 PM PST by Howlin
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To: sinkspur
And don't forget, Sex offenders who send their kids to be arrested aregreat people.
1,771 posted on 03/30/2005 2:28:45 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Peach
"Oh, I see the difference. And as I noted a few posts down from that which you didn't conveniently post, I was posting what Dan Abrams on MSNBC was reporting."

Could you be more specific? I did post that you were referenceing Don Abrams, in fact I quoted your entire post in my response to you (post 1591).

But you fail to see the contentious words you are prone to using, and it is a poor refelection on your call for a 'reasoned' approach to this discussion.

Peach: "That IS still what we do on Free Republic, is it not? "

Here, I'll re-post what you wrote once more-- so I can't be accused of not conveniently posting again:

"HEADS UP EVERYBODY:

Dan Abrams reported on MSNBC that the Schindlers will send you a photograph of their daughter in her hospital bed, wasting away. If you send them $100.

Yes. You heard that right. $100 for a picture of a dying Terri."


I would like to have had a direct quote of what he said. Or a link to a video clip.

Further, I feel that the editorializing done on your part is in complete opposition to the stand you have taken as a WPPFF member.
1,772 posted on 03/30/2005 2:29:03 PM PST by green pastures
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To: Howlin

So the first time doesn't count?


1,773 posted on 03/30/2005 2:29:11 PM PST by Scarlet7
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To: Howlin
You really gotta see this one...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374100/posts

1,774 posted on 03/30/2005 2:29:16 PM PST by lugsoul
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To: lugsoul
All those judges watched all the tapes. Around 5 total hours, unedited.

They saw more of her not following ballons, music, hands, fingers, etc. than we have.

Hence, they made their decisions.

Schindlers couldn't "fool" the judges.

I'd like to see all 5 hours of those tapes.

1,775 posted on 03/30/2005 2:29:42 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Scarlet7

Now you're being disengenuous; but thank you for playing.


1,776 posted on 03/30/2005 2:31:26 PM PST by Howlin
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To: NautiNurse

I never suggested they were the same. I merely requested definitions of each. If you can provide a reference or a synopsis of the definitions I would appreciate it.


1,777 posted on 03/30/2005 2:31:48 PM PST by verity (A mindset is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: MKM1960

Tract=track


1,778 posted on 03/30/2005 2:32:42 PM PST by MKM1960 (Now I know how Tom Daschle felt: "I'm saddened, deeply saddened")
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To: Scarlet7

In the last week alone, there have been over a dozen articles about that tape and how misleading it is. I haven't saved them but they are on FR if you don't mind looking through the other 500 Terri articles.

The Schindlers also should stop lying. Terri's sister has been on television all week saying that Terri never had a heart attack and therefore the reason for her PVS is mysterious.

No one ever said she had a heart attack and the sister knows it. Terri had cardiac arrest, an entirely different thing.

THen the sister has gone on to talk mysteriously about broken bones and the family just wants to know about those. Terri did have one single solitary broken bone when she presented at the hospital. Not one. SHe had a hairline fracture in two places. One where EMS may have done CPR before they realized she was still breathing and the other in her neck from her fall.

Go to Trinity_Tx home page on Free Republic; it's all there. The hospital discharge summary. The doctors, neurologists, etc.

Then ask yourself, if Terri had broken bones when she got to the hospital, why didn't the doctor mention them or treat them?

If the family truly believed that Michael tried to strangle Terri, why did they wait 12 years to make the charge? Why didn't the doctors and Terri's family notice bruise marks? When the doctors were sued by Michael for malpractice, why didn't they defend themselves and say "we didn't do anything wrong, Michael tried to kill her"?

How can you explain her low potassium? Her low calcium? Her malnourished state? Her bone loss due to bulimia? Those things are NOT connected to Michael trying to kill her.

Why would all these doctors lie about her condition? Neurologist? Therapist? Terri's OWN parents admitted under oath she's PVS.

And PVS patients make spontaneous gestures and noises and eye movements.


1,779 posted on 03/30/2005 2:32:48 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: MKM1960
Unless it is repeatable, it may merely be coincidence

Ding ding ding! We have a winner, who will likely be ignored.

1,780 posted on 03/30/2005 2:33:09 PM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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