Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
It could be, than why would the organization as National Peripheral Neuropathy want to taint themselves if the is so?
All I am saying we only have here say and gossip on both sides.....when a spouce becomes secretive and the courts only hear one side that is not due process for all the skelets must surface to get to the truth!
In the meantime the husband is firting with "The Wonderful Way To Die Society!" of Felos, Soros which main purpose is to control "End of Life Care Cost!
Ok, sop are you, Petronski, saying it's ok to call other FReepers "Nazi", for example?
I thought you were better than that.
Because there are a lot of stupid people in this world.
Depends on how much praise they heap on Terri's death sentence. What's happening to Terri has direct precedents in Nazi Germany.
Actually, I know this may shock you a bit, but the Eugenics movement in Germany was inspired by our own little bout with it here in America.
What's happening to Terri has direct precedents in America.
It doesn't shock me at all. I know that. But we stopped doing it here voluntarily, without being conquered. We progressed beyond it.
Until now.
Since Judge made his ruling I guess
Nor I. I have long held him as a dedicated plant, a disruptor.
That's why I've been doing the reading that I have been. I don't want to believe the rumors, innuendos and lies, and there have been plenty of them thrown around her on FR. I'm sorry to say that I believed quite a few of them until I started doing my own reading.
We never stopped. It was just done more quietly after the 3rd Reich caused a little backlash here...
I guess you acknowledge it's wrong and comparable to Nazi policies
No. I acknowledge it's wrong, and it is comparable to our own policies.
That's one of the problems Americans have - we just love to point fingers at other nations about their shortcomings, but man, we just love to iognore our own...
America may be the greatest nation on Earth, but even we have our skeletons... So let's leave the Nazis out of it, and put the blame exactly where it lies.
You could not be more wrong.
No, sir, it is you who are in violation of Godwin's Law
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress."
Uh, no. The other abuses of Nazism is exactly where this leads. That's what you don't understand. When we keep cheapening life, everyone's life is cheapened. Horrible things follow.
You might not want to learn from history, but the lesson is just as valid anyway.
Believe me, I know, and I don't want to go there. However, all the "NAZI this and NAZI that" crap on FR does nothing but incite - which is what it's meant to.
Calling people Nazis does nothing to do further the debate or find solutions, and THAT is the problem.
Godwin's Law has an obvious flaw: sometimes people behave like Nazis. Executing the disabled is very Nazi behavior.
You want to use the judiciary to stop me from criticizing the judiciary? How delightfully totalitarian.
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A 24! And on a thread about Hitler too!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1373846/posts?page=24#24
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