Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Don't lose heart. I've seen the ups and downs of this and other good causes. Somehow things always work out. Fortunately or unfortunately, people have short memories. The MSM will move on to the next cause celebre. We will be here to go on with the good fight.
I hope you're right.
After this is over Randall Terry will craw back in his hole!
If I were a business person I would sell a two headed coin one side Randall Terry and the other side George Felos!
- Don't post it if ya wouldn't say it to the person's face;
- Let the trolls go hungry, politely;
- Follow the golden rule. Don't start fires, don't fan them.
We do all this and we're golden, and we get to discuss this like adults.
Goodnight, All!
And if you like Douglas Adams you'll like Terry Pratchett. Best British satire around, and he's prolific, too! Guaranteed not for the easily offended, however. Or for those who think Harry Potter is a witchcraft manual, as witches and inept wizards are featured prominently.
Talking about Felos on Greta...
Apparently in his book, Felos describes "soul-speaking" to a PVS patient, who metaphysically told him that she wanted to die.
Aside from the fact that an innocent woman is being tortured, the fact that people are following this guy into the abyss is almost comical.
*Sigh* Dr. Dobson on Fox talking about babies with 150 pound heads.
Love it!!
Must have been CNN or MSNBC.
Oh, look, the sex offender and his child are on with Greta.
I don't think Rush is abusive, just angry. And there's nothing wrong with that. And while he's been over the top at times, I've never heard him advocate law breaking. :)
"Apparently in his book, Felos describes "soul-speaking" to a PVS patient, who metaphysically told him that she wanted to die"
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Didn't John Edward say in one of his legal cases he talk to a child using his mind?
Wow, is that Bill Clinton's Bible?
Just turned it on...has she asked him about the 2 counts of rape against minors?
But that kid looks like he was in Children of the Damned.
I am right now watching Scarborough Country, and he has Dr. James Dobson on....and they are really making my skin crawl...they are talking about children starving in Africa, and how very painful it is, and how the little children grasp their stomachs in pain....it really is horrible to think about...
And so by talking about the pain of starving children in Africa, it is by extension, that they are intimating that Terri Shiavo is also feeling this great pain...that if she could she would grab her stomach in extreme pain...
I know that I always have tried to believe that even tho a person is in a PVS, that they may sense things around them...but from the Catscan(tho, its years old), I also have to listen to such doctors as Dr. Baden, who say that a person whose brain produces a Catscan such as they have on Terri Shiavo cannot possibly sense things around them...
But I really do find trying to link the pulling of Terri Shiavos feeding tube, to be akin to starving children in Africa, just somehow not correct...
That is what is so sad about this whole case...there are just things about Terri and what she feels, that we will probably never know...
Thanks for the post andysandmikesmom. I have always seen patients out of bed and into recliners also.
I couldn't understand why nautinurse brought that up.
That was nice about the hammock. What a good idea.
I just watched Dr.Dobson myself..see my post 1337
That is not the Rush I listen too!
BTW how are you virus free?????
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