He/she is clearly from syracuse
Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
So I heard...but I'm still speechless:)
It's...it's...Rainbow Koolaide?
I am so disgusted,
but not surprised.
Hildy called it from the start.
I didn't realize you were dedicated to our thread! I'm delighted and thank you sincerely. The other side is simply intolerable and we're hoping to stay safe here. LOL
You need to read it (or watch) so you can tear apart the movie when it comes out.
tell that to Martha Stewart. she couldn't buy the verdict she wanted.
Don't worry my check in that secret account will clear... ;0)
Yes. She did. And I resisted until I read some of their testimony. Gruesome doesn't do it justice.
Let me know when you find a valid resource for a flat EEG conducted on Mrs. Schiavo. Thanks.
I am to the point where I truly don't know what to think or believe. I haven't read all of the documents, just the Wolfson report. I've heard on radio (which I've learned to take much of what I hear with a large grain of salt) that Terri was able to walk between parallel bars, and could speak single syllable words at the beginning of her hospitalization. Then the allegation was that through neglect, she deteriorated. My husband has told me that that is not possible. If she had those capabilities in the beginning, then there had to have been another event that caused additional brain damage for her to end up in the condition she's in. There is just so much "stuff" being thrown around, that it is difficult for me to sort it all out, and know what is true.
It's hard to believe,
harder to stomach
and impossible to imagine.
But I reckon it's true.
I will watch the Abram's replay just to see his face.
I was just providing a link in response to a question about whether or not Terri sat in a chair. :-)
It gets kind of old doing research for people; I've given ya'll a gazillion links over the last few days and beyond those in my freepmail, I'm bored with it.
So I'll tell you what, why don't you provide a link that she doesn't have a flat EEG. Oh, and my links are court documents so a newspaper article won't exactly do it. Thanks.
He/she is clearly from syracuse
What is the "other side"??
I request a different mod for this thread. You've chosen a side.
Here ya go :0)
The hospital discharge summary shows that she had the feeding tube inserted before she ever left the hospital - so it would be pretty difficult to walk between parallel bars.
I can't remember if she was even out of her coma or off the ventilator before she left the hospital.
Trinity's page has the discharge summary if your husband wants to read it.
Sanity versus Insanitry. Easy choice.
While working in a nursing home, I often had to care for a few younger people who were declared as being PVS...and being as we did not really know, what they could or could not sense, we always made the effort not to leave them in bed all the time, but rather get them up, seat them in their recliners, and always, always, tell them what we were doing, during their care, so that they would know what was going on...we just had to assume, that they could sense some of what was going on around them...
One young patient, had a hammock, that we installed over her bed, and it was hooked onto very large metal supports at the foot and head end of the bed...then once in it, her parents requested, that if we had time, would we please gently swing the hammock back and forth, kind of like rocking a child...we were always glad to do that...
It was always heartbreaking to see these young people in what was diagnosed as a PVS...but we always did our best to make sure that they were safe, well cared for, clean and dry, and hopefully, if they could sense anything, they sensed that we were there to make their lives as comfortable as possible...
Just my own experience...
Insanitry?
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