Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Admin mod has a long evening ahead. :O
Hey, it's nice to see you here, Orange. Happy to have you and to know that you're here. Bless you for your good efforts.
Errr...are you sure this is a male A/M?
Oh, I see what you mean. We could start an Admin Fan club but I'm not sure if he's a he or she's a she. We should try to line up freepers accordingly. LOL
Yup, or they can call in a backup mod just to go through all my snarky posts... ;0)
No, I don't think you're wasting your time. I just can't help being a wise donkey sometimes.
I do.
He keeps popping in.
Uh oh, I hope he isn't a she.
Um, no.
I don't have any problem with the source. However, was Terri aware she was in the chair, or was she just placed there by someone so family members could all have a place to sit?
There's nothing to like about a source, it's neutral. Thank you for pointing it out.
The CAT scan did not show persistent blows to the head. I didn't even read the rest of what you posted. WHere do you get this stuff?
Credit freeper Trinity_Tx:
Women with eating disorders can lose 30% of their bone mass in a year. (Her medical chart also shows her to be undernourished and low in calcium.)
And the only broken bones she had, according to the full deposition of the radiologist was:
- a compression/hairline fracture in lumbar 1, which he said could have happened when she fell (a lot of us are walking around with those - my sister is in her 30s and has numerous ones just from daily living)
- some of her ribs and the parts of the thoracic vertebra they were connected to in the back, which is extremely common after CPR, even in people with strong bones.
That's it.
There would also have been outward signs like bruising had she been attacked, and it would no way explain such "severely" low potassium.
Even Dr. Baden, in the last few weeks, has said everything was consistent with bulimia. His earlier comments were based only on the bone scan... and he misread it at that, thinking it showed a head injury. It doesn't. (see link to greer and unedited bone scan deposition below)
Her knee x-ray showed nothing.
http://www.terrisfight.org/documents/Humana%20Discharge%20Summary%20050990.pdf
The Schindler attorney admitted the bone scan had been available to them and did not even try to say it was kept secret.
http://abstractappeal.com/schiavo/trialctorder11-02-scan.pdf
Wolfie and the gang are certain to pop up now.
I don't know either. All I know is that he/she is a saint. Saint Orange. Saint Orange of FreeRepublic, the patron saint of quality posts.
Oh yes, you are such a pariah. Boo, hoo, hoo. *yawn*
I stopped reading the responses when someone accued the bishop being in on the "money trail". We are through the looking glass and down the rabbit hole.
I thought the manifesto was based on facts, not supposition. I know in fact that patients can be, and are in, recliners daily.
I hope you are a night owl or you live on the left coast.
56 and 1000 some odd to go.
I wouldn't dream of that. You're fair game as well. Don't think you can kill me with comedy (but it's really fun you do). I'm trying to be fair here, trying to call the posts as I see them, not from a pro or con perspective, but from a FR rules perspective. You all can try your games, after almost 5 years, we've seen more than you can imagine.
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