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To: bourbon; F16Fighter; Marine Inspector; Squantos; Czar; cyborg; skeeter; rodguy911; KiloLima; ...

You may have noticed but most of the pro-Bush immigration plan and we can all argue about whether that is amnesty or rewards illegals forever but that doesn't matter since it's dead politically in it's current form......anyhow many of that rather small crowd are also South Bashers that you should be familiar with. If not South bashers they are almost 100% part of the "What Culture War?" crowd.

Similar agenda actually. Kill any form of American culture they dislike, don't feel a part of, or feel morally superior to.

Your post may have been the best on the thread (there is a reason you are a lawyer..lol) but all of this is in vain. The course for discussion on immigration here has been set. It's a fait accompli. Those of us who don't agree ...which is around 80% from the polls I've seen, should just have ignored this thread and I would have but this is where I first learned of the purges. I lamented the purges and that turned the dogs loose. Essentially the same dogs that run any thread that has the slightest hint of race...whether real or imagined.

I'm not at all sure why this thread exists to be frank. Sort of a "bug light" lol. It's the most contentious one I've been on in all my time here but very few got zapped. I don't know anything about how mods work but I bet this one was numero uno priority for a couple of days.

My position on immigration and how I approach that will obviously have to take place away from this forum which is btw, the only political forum I have ever been a member of besides Trixie's briefly. I did look at LP once or twice when they gave me my own thread about me being a loathesome Bushbot when I refused to leave here after an incident 18 months ago...on this topic ironically....that's rich isn't it?. As for other political issues, hopefully we can still maintain a unified front of sorts...one that is in line with most conservatives in the country. If we can't then so be it.

But remember...and this goes for anyone here....and I do mean ANYONE.

What makes the power of this forum is not all this political chat nor the infighting nor purges nor the intrigue...which frankly I know very little about.

What has catapulted this forum into the big leagues is the simple facts of sheer numbers and that on several occasions some well placed or astute freepers have scored political hits that have made the world take notice.

Secondly is the forum in it's local chapter form has had a great ability to organize political protest in the past even though always outnumbered by the opposition.

And you might note that most of this forum's best at those two things.....are not the most prolific chatters and do not usually belong to any roving dingo pack.

The strength of this forum is not exemplified by this thread. That's what I've learned anyhow....and I include myself in that negative. I think this has been damaging.

There are some good people on the other side...a few anyhow but mostly at least amongst the loudest, it's the same race baiters as usual.

On the bright side I met some FReepers I never really knew and found kindred spirit and that is always refreshing....hell, aside from steady news gleaning and activism....that's why we're here mostly.

I got 36 freepmails and about that many e-mails over the course of this thread...all positive except one which was conflicted understandably.

Helluvaride....the loud but tiny opposition are unified and strident...they can be proud of that even if they are about as wrong as tits on a boar..


2,654 posted on 02/13/2005 10:05:16 AM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: wardaddy

The fact that this thread (and I've read most of it) survived is somewhat amazing.

FR used to(and still does) have some superb debaters. Pople would even often play devil's advocate just to make their points.

Increasingly, it has become a place where comments are often just single-liner stabs back at the opposition. Like kids cussing each other out in a high school restroom.

Hopefully, FR will survive and remain a place where people can honestly question and learn about conservative values.

But with the newfound popularity and the hits FR has made against MSM, you can bet there are powerful forces arrayed aginst us now.


2,660 posted on 02/13/2005 10:13:50 AM PST by djf
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To: wardaddy

BUMP


2,666 posted on 02/13/2005 10:20:01 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: wardaddy
Big Time BUMP, Big Guy....

You hit ALL the cylinders.

2,673 posted on 02/13/2005 10:31:16 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: wardaddy

Very well said, wardaddy.
We are in total agreement.


2,679 posted on 02/13/2005 10:35:39 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: wardaddy

Well stated .....repeating the lie loud and long still doesn't make it right. It's about criminal acts against our nation and the race card won't carry their agenda this time.........


2,738 posted on 02/13/2005 11:22:17 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: wardaddy

Is that an OPUS?


2,746 posted on 02/13/2005 11:37:26 AM PST by TaxRelief (Support the Troops Rally, Fayetteville, NC -- March 19, 2005)
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To: wardaddy
On the bright side I met some FReepers I never really knew and found kindred spirit and that is always refreshing....

Me, too. I am always meeting great new-to-me people on FR, and this time especially.

Thanks for the ping and that was a very nice post.

2,802 posted on 02/13/2005 1:02:06 PM PST by KiloLima (Political correctness is the real quagmire...)
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To: wardaddy; bourbon

...breaking my silence on this thread just to say Thanks to the two of you, and others who are like-minded, for your great posts.


2,927 posted on 02/13/2005 8:43:17 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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