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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the President’s ‘guest worker’ amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.

The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The management’s answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.

Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.

Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bush’s immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the President’s Oath of Office.


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To: Travis McGee

Travis McGee Bump -

(I am still unsure whether posting open border articles will get one banned, or if even advocating that idea in a reply is also sufficient grounds to bann an individual - please advise)


3,121 posted on 02/14/2005 1:51:37 PM PST by society-by-contract
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To: StoneColdGOP
"Whoops, didn't mean to imply we don't need more shes, but that we didn't need any shes pretending to be hes!"

Suuuuuure ya didn't. lol

Kidding... Heck, even if you meant we didn't need more "she's" I wouldn't blame ya. The forum I hang out in where there are only 2 of us females is a lot more rational and a lot less full of petty sniping. Then again, when you do get one of those odd males who're into such emotionalism, holy cow. lol

anyway...

I'm thinking maybe FR had a well-needed catharsis here, and as upsetting as those can be, they can make things better for everyone. Just need to take a step back and breathe a bit, objectively consider, and put it into perspective. : )
3,122 posted on 02/14/2005 2:02:16 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Mo1; society-by-contract

Mo1, He said "basically". And he did a lot more than "make a list".

Society, of course not. Sheesh.

C'mon you guys. Be fair here.

I'm out, unless pinged.


3,123 posted on 02/14/2005 2:07:48 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Trinity_Tx
". And he did a lot more than "make a list".

I've noticed .. he also accuse Jim of being paid off

3,124 posted on 02/14/2005 2:16:48 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: All

Dane got the boot? I haven't felt this good since Walt and Palpatine were ejected.


3,125 posted on 02/14/2005 2:18:26 PM PST by Godebert
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To: cbkaty
IMO, if it is not an issue worth discussing on this forum, then your not against it.

While dodging your rock-throwing....I will add that your tone does not inspire me...

Me either

I tend to stay away from these threads since if I don't agree with a few ... I'm called a flaming liberal ... among other names

3,126 posted on 02/14/2005 2:26:26 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hello Jim:

It's good to see you talking with the people on Free Republic about this tough issue. The question I have is why did you take the ultra liberal tactic of calling everyone that had a different opionion from you racists and nazis without any substantive evidence of such claims?

One of the biggest arguements about your FROBL's is that they constantly play the race card in the absence of a good debate. Then you did the same thing in front of the Freeper community. I hope you will give an honest and thoughtful response to this question. Surely you are still capable of answering a direct question without relying on your delete key?


3,127 posted on 02/14/2005 2:33:01 PM PST by Jericho7
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To: Mo1

Oversimplified, but whatever. Asked and answered.


3,128 posted on 02/14/2005 2:36:01 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Trinity_Tx

Oversimplified ???

Like you said .. whatever


3,129 posted on 02/14/2005 2:39:10 PM PST by Mo1 (Question to Liberals .. When did supporting and defending Freedom become a bad thing??)
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To: Jericho7
"The question I have is why did you take the ultra liberal tactic of calling everyone that had a different opionion from you racists and nazis without any substantive evidence of such claims?"

And where, pray tell, did I do that?

Why do you make false accusations?

3,130 posted on 02/14/2005 2:47:30 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: 82Marine89

Agreed. Your earlier post just made me wonder how illegals would ever be granted legal status. The only way I know of so far is the apparently risky green card option, which should be done away with completely.


3,131 posted on 02/14/2005 2:50:44 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Dane

I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.

You live in your own "reality", boxing at shadows.


3,132 posted on 02/14/2005 2:54:00 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Marine Inspector
Good, but don't come onto this thread and say you've never been banned for your opinion, when in fact you've never stated your opinion.

So Marine Spincter...your power and boisterous opinion underwhelms me....

...Please allow me to hunbly bow to your position....you are the gatekeeper of opinions on FR....? Well excuse me all to H___!

3,133 posted on 02/14/2005 2:54:44 PM PST by cbkaty
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To: Jim Robinson

Well sir, in your original response post on this thread you lumped several organizations and Free Republic members with stormfront and racism. However, there is no evidence presented that most of the banned made racial comments or derrogatory statements.

I've been through the entire ALIPAC website and I can't find one hair of evidence of racism or association with white nationalist Storm Front. Clearly your response attempts to generate a relationship where there is none.


3,134 posted on 02/14/2005 3:01:09 PM PST by Jericho7
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To: F16Fighter; Travis McGee; wardaddy

AGREE TOTALLY !

The PERSONAL ATTACKS vs DEBATE allowed recently is bizarre, insulting and just damn silly . Disruptors Inc has dug in here and one has to ask for what purpose ?

Not the FR I've seen in the past.....


3,135 posted on 02/14/2005 3:04:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Jericho7

I didn't accuse anyone of being racists except the skinheads at stormfront. I posted links above where stormfronters are boasting that they are organizers, volunteers and promoters of the so-called minuteman project. If you wish to rub shoulders with these people, that's your problem not mine.


3,136 posted on 02/14/2005 3:06:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Squantos

LOL


3,137 posted on 02/14/2005 3:12:19 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I do not rub shoulders with skin heads or Stormfront and from what I can tell neither have any of the organizations Mr. Gheen listed in his article. I have also not seen any evidence that the banned Freepers rubbed shoulders with skin heads or Storm Front either. Yet the implication is clearly made in this thread and the responses of most indicate they have confidence that you have banned websites, authors, and posters, discussed in this article for racist associations. Surely you have evidence of such loose associations? Surely if customers of Free Republic will be removed there should be strong evidence I would hope.


3,138 posted on 02/14/2005 3:12:24 PM PST by Jericho7
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To: Jericho7

Read the posts on the links. Again, I accused no one but the stormfronters who are obviously racists.


3,139 posted on 02/14/2005 3:14:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Respectfully suggest that all charges of racism on FR be considered another form of personal attack & immediately deleted unless a specific racist post is referenced.

Reasonable people know what racism looks like. No more dark, vague, discussion-stifling implications.

3,140 posted on 02/14/2005 3:18:43 PM PST by skeeter (OBL "Americans" won't honor any law that interferes with their pocketbooks)
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