Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson
The shot heard around the Internet has been fired on FreeRepublic.com The owner Jim Robinson and his moderators have launched a sniper style purge against members that disagree with the Presidents guest worker amnesty or support more control of illegal immigration. Free Republic is an amazing tool for those looking for a good debate and news from around the country.
The problem for the administration of the site is that their creation is allowing the participants to learn that the Bush immigration record and plans are shockingly out of line with the views of most conservatives. The managements answer to this conflict between the majority of conservatives and the influence of the White House on their Web site has become electronic executions and censorship.
Members and readers of Free Republic would be surprised to know that many members of their community have fallen silent on the discussions about illegal immigration lately because free speech is an illusion on FR.com. They are silent because they have been banned from the Web site without warning, cause, or explanation in most cases. For weeks the moderators have been suspending and banning new members that chimed in quickly on the immigration debates.
Now this trend has broadened as the first groups of long-term users were suspended or banned this past week. Although Robinson and his staff removed many members of the Free Republic community in the first few days of the purge, those that religiously support President Bushs immigration plan, open borders and approve of public benefits for illegal aliens remain on the forum. Those that were banned were the members that wanted more done to control illegal immigration and a strict observance to the Presidents Oath of Office.
Good bye? That's your correlation from secure borders and national soveriegnty to racism? Since you have no way of defending your spurious charges you say "good bye".
I am tired of humoring you.
BTW you missed roll call.
Have you never chatted with once-ler before? That's how it ends everytime.
You wouldn't need to force the wages up --- with competititon for labor, businesses would have to entice workers with wages and benefits. Government takeover of the health care system would become less likely.
When she got picked to sing and play 'America the Beautiful' at the Super Bowl.
And not incidentally, our county went 60% to President Bush. :o)
Your idea of "fair" relies on the illegal aliens going home either voluntarily, or being sent home by force, which puts us right back where we are right now.
Your think that we should enact some sort of immigration reform which satisfies you emotionally, but can't be really enforced, nor will it be effective.
In fact, it has the possibilities of having disastrous effects on the nation.
They are here already, tens of millions of them according to you.
Why in the hell would they get up and walk away from what they have built since they managed to get into the country and get work, to go back to the country they fled because they couldn't make a decent living there?
You think that their motivation to do that is the possibility of being admitted back into the USA so that they can start all over again, no job, no house, no guarantee that they can even get back here?
The vast majority of them won't do it.
So then, we are left right back at square one...remove them by force, regardless of whatever impact it may have on society, our civil rights, and our economy.
All that, just to satisfy your irrational emotional needs.
You have no plan at all, you are actually an impediment to any plan that has a chance of working.
Think about it.
Go pay a visit down to El Paso and look across the river. You want *that* here?
You come into my house and start praising Hillary!, and I'll ban you from my property without even offering an explanation.
No different here...it's Jim's house, and he sets the rules.
What's so difficult to understand about that?
For most people it is about volume. We can't take in everyone even if we wanted to.
Then it should not be offered to law-breakers. Let only those who apply for "guest worker" status do so from their own homelands, wait in line for their turn, allow anyone from any country to be in on it ---- and punish the lawbreakers.
"No different here...it's Jim's house, and he sets the rules."
Maybe he should clearly state the rules such as list all the known journalist who's articles are censored by this site.
There it is in a nutshell.
The concern is not about "protecting our borders", it's about protecting us from Mexicans, otherwise, why would you have forgotten that we have a norther border as well.
Think about it.Go pay a visit down to El Paso and look across the river. You want *that* here?
1,810 posted on 02/12/2005 9:09:22 AM EST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
Have you taken a look at what's going on north of our northern border?
You want those people here?
He's done so many times.
Perhaps, he should mail you a card each time he sets a new rule.
Yes, have you? I live near the northern border and there isn't nearly quite as much going as in the south by a longshot.
Ten --- fifteen years ago -- even less --- these people had jobs and homes in Mexico. And the fact they can't make it one of the world's wealthiest nations is what needs to change. We can't just keep absorbing all of Mexico's huge and growing social problems. Mexico has to reform --- and telling them they don't control our immigration laws and the border will be controlled is actually the best way to make that happen. Like I've said over and over --- there is no excuse whatsoever that all prosperity ends when you come to a thin river.
Please tell me where this is posted.
Not I --- Canadians need to fix their own country also. No government should think the solutions to all it's problems is people dumping into the USA.
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