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7 Dead in High Speed Car Chase
Sierra Vista Police Department ^ | Unpublished | HiJinx

Posted on 10/16/2004 2:37:27 PM PDT by HiJinx

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To: mlmr

"NO, the football player should have had the presence of mind and brains enough to stop. Parents need to teach their children how to respond the police effectively and safely.

My dad taught me to stop, show my hands and make eye contact."

To: mlmr - I agree. And there are at least two occasions in which acting in this manner you describe - including being polite - may have gotten me warnings instead of tickets.

BTW, I always read "about" pages before replying to someone for the first time. You may wish to read mine and if I can be of assistance to you on one of your stated goals, please feel free to FReepmail me with questions. Regards, Norski. :-)


181 posted on 10/16/2004 7:37:25 PM PDT by Norski
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To: M007

well, you are entitled to your opinion..."there you go again"..so this is my opinion (based on experience)...I'll bet anything.. that you and the parents of the young man that 'ran from the cops...have a lot in common....Jr. just can't do anything wrong....it's always "someone elses fault.'!!


182 posted on 10/16/2004 7:44:16 PM PDT by chiefphil
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To: M007

Brilliant.

This was a stolen car.

Steal cars, rob people and and flee at high speed so your escape is secured...

Right...


183 posted on 10/16/2004 7:56:41 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: M007

The "football player" killed himself.


184 posted on 10/16/2004 8:00:52 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: M007

"The cops chased down and caused the death of that football player right near where I live. They ought to just stop these high speed chases, they are so dangerous."

And, after that, stop the running foot pursuit and the low speed auto chases? You're probably also for a gun ban. Why not just hand the crooks the keys to the kingdom?


185 posted on 10/16/2004 8:26:43 PM PDT by Chu Gary (USN Intel guy 1967 - 1970)
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To: M007
The cops caused him to get burned alive

Wrong. Your buddy's dangerous choices led to his own death and HE endangered others lives.

You must put responsibility for his actions where they belong, ON HIM.

186 posted on 10/16/2004 10:01:46 PM PDT by Lester Moore (Islam is begging to be destroyed by a Christian Crusade! Forthcoming!)
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To: HiJinx

The 10 a.m. news here in Mesa says 6 dead and 15 injured - do you know if any were locals??? I lived in S.V. for 16 years until 3 years ago.


187 posted on 10/16/2004 10:05:11 PM PDT by CatholicLady
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To: M007
The cops could have gotten his license plate number and picked him up when he got off the exit after he had cooled down. The cops caused him to get burned alive and could have killed any number of other people on the Thruway that day. The whole situation was ridiculous.

That's like saying the police shouldn't fire on someone randomly shooting a gun in public. After all, he will run out of bullets eventually, why put more bullets in the air? A car being driven at excessive speed in a reckless manner is a dangerous weapon. If the driver kills himself or any innocents, it is his fault alone. Reckless and wanton disregard for human life, as is the case of those who chose to engage in a high speed flight from authority, is the sign of a shallow and selfish person.

The best option is that no one is injured, an option that is reduced to near nil chance if the police allow a speeding, reckless driver to continue without trying to stop him.

188 posted on 10/16/2004 10:12:10 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: HiJinx

Thanks for the update, HJ. I haven't had the TV on all day so missed the news.


189 posted on 10/16/2004 10:15:06 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: sungkilmoon

We have 'masses' of good cops too. Cops who everyday put their lives on the line to try and protect and serve the citizens within their communities. Its easy to sit back and armchair their movements. When is the last time you put your life on the line for a total stranger?


190 posted on 10/16/2004 10:20:39 PM PDT by Cate ( Bush is da' man)
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To: M007
"The football player was on the Thruway, the only way off is through exits."

That's what I would do if the Police stopped chasing me. I would head for the next exit, pay my toll, and hope they forgot about me. No way would I abandon the car and try to get away on foot and claim it wasn't me driving when they finally caught me.

191 posted on 10/16/2004 10:30:35 PM PDT by Joshua
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To: Joe Hadenuf

If we just gave all undocumented immigrants drivers' licenses, they would have no reason to run from the law.

Hey, let's just give the whole world immigration amnesty. Problem solved!


192 posted on 10/16/2004 10:32:06 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: M007
its PC bullcrap from PC people like you that have created this problem to begin with. running from the cops puts the perp, the cops, and anyone else nearby in harms way. poor poor football player. maybe he should have got out of the car and ran. P-marlowe post#50 has the right idea. if they run, shot em. then only real criminals will run.
193 posted on 10/17/2004 6:05:07 AM PDT by gdc61
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To: sungkilmoon; StarCMC; Fedora

It's a conspiracy on the part of Bretheren & Sistseren In Chaos Inc. LLC.
We will, at the flip of a switch, paralyse most of the world.
That is why we are working towards banning the old classic cars, they go against our plans of whirled conquest.
Only when the evil gas guzzlers are removed from the roads and everyone drives a car with a kill switch can our evil conspiracy to annoy and harrass everyone on Earth into obeying our whims appear!


194 posted on 10/17/2004 6:43:25 AM PDT by Darksheare (Ganags of epopel shall stune your beeber with "UNNNGH!")
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To: M007

Chases are necessary.
Letting the guy go is not an option.
That gets people raped, robbed, and murdered.
Besides, the driver wouldn't RUN if there wasn't a REASON, right?


"They ought to just stop these high speed chases, they are so dangerous."
I live in NY, the Liberals here have always tried to 'let the crooks go'.
That results in the deaths of citizens.
That kind of thinking is repugnant and evil.
Letting the crook go is often more dangerous than the chase itself.

Besides, your comment is so much touchy feely knee jerk reactionism.
If the football player hadn't RUN, there wouldn't have been a need to chase him.
He CHOSE to break the law.
And why let him go?
Merely because he's a football player?
How elitist!
Hold everyone equally accountable to the law and enforce it equally without preference to one's profession or social status!


195 posted on 10/17/2004 6:50:56 AM PDT by Darksheare (Ganags of epopel shall stune your beeber with "UNNNGH!")
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To: JackelopeBreeder
If anyone needs to get their tail feathers ripped out it is our Gov., St Rep., St. Sen, Kolbe, Grijalva, Pastor, & McCain.

Just looked at the story in the Arizona Daily RED Star and never once did they mention the word illegal or even undocumented migrant. Must not want to ruin Grajalva's and Pastor's reelection bid. Either that or they're just being extra P.C.

196 posted on 10/17/2004 8:18:28 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Darksheare; L`enn; beyond the sea; A Jovial Cad; steveo; FITZ; goldfinch; No Truce With Kings; ...
Besides, your comment is so much touchy feely knee jerk reactionism. If the football player hadn't RUN, there wouldn't have been a need to chase him. He CHOSE to break the law. And why let him go?

I think that the reason men run from the police is that when the police catch them they throw them in prison and let them get raped. This happens all the time. I know some cops and they laugh about it. They use the threat of rape to keep people in line.

197 posted on 10/17/2004 8:44:16 AM PDT by M007
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To: M007

If you don't break the law, what have you to fear?
Don't drink and drive, don't do anything that would get you put in the lockup.
Period.

End of story.


198 posted on 10/17/2004 8:59:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (Ganags of epopel shall stune your beeber with "UNNNGH!")
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To: M007

You're too funny! See post #155


199 posted on 10/17/2004 9:09:21 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: M007

Usually they get put in jail --- if your friend just had a sip of alcohol and did nothing more than that, he would not have ended up in prison --- maybe jail until the trial for being a minor in possession and in jail he would have met up with a shoplifter, a bad check writer but not much else.


200 posted on 10/17/2004 9:24:21 AM PDT by FITZ
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