Posted on 10/12/2004 8:42:25 PM PDT by knak
up on drudge:
WASH TIMES: U.S. security officials are investigating a recent intelligence report that a group of 25 Chechen terrorists illegally entered the United States from Mexico... Members of the group, said to be wearing backpacks, secretly traveled to northern Mexico and crossed into a mountainous part of Arizona, Gertz to report in Pgae One Splash, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE...
(Thanks, Poohbah)
Thanks Phoobah? PHOOBAH ? ? ?
I guess you really are new around here . . . take some good advice, don't let poobah do your thinking for you. poobah has been clipped by just about everyone on this board. He is such a glutton for punishment that there are several here that simply will not answer him anymore. He will never quit taking about Canada and the coastlines when the subject is MEXICO and is embarrassingly wrong.
"After all, the Intel and Congressional guys keep mentioning a failure of "imagination" in our ability to forsee how the terrorists would attack us."
In this case, I think it's less a failure of imagination than it is a failure of courage.
"Lol, you're actually proposing we allow civilians to remote-launch lethal weapons from buttons in their livings rooms?"
Fargin' A, bubba.
In this kind of war, arming civilians falls in the category of "necessary but not sufficient."
It's just one of the things that needs to be done.
Review, if you will, the Columbine fiasco. I can remember yelling at the TV screen for those dippy "law enforcement" officers to come out from behind their cars, go into that school, and stop the killing.
School kids died unnecessarily because they were afraid to go in.
If your kid had been in there, and you were hearing shooting, would you have gone in?
Armed civilians could have greatly lessened that tragedy, and only armed civilians will be able to react effectively to certain types of terrorist attacks.
As far as the border goes, it should be declared a free-fire zone, and the Mexican government billed $10K for every intruder we have to bury.
All things to consider and watch but they also form a nexus of US-Mexico interests which need cooperation.
We cannot ignore our borders clearly I merely want to temper the hysteria which is rampant about the Mexican.
Robots are the answer. Thousands of them.
"the big red button with a budweiser in their hand, the first time they see Joe Maintenance wander into the CC-TV feed."
Think rather of ranchers down near the border, competent citizens, monitoring a free fire zone on the border that Joe Maintenance is not going to wander into.
Lord, Israel is a tiny country barely a county in some states. Why don't we compare apples and apples not watermelons and blueberries.
The very idea is revolting and unAmerican.
Well the danger there is crooked RAT politicians signing up such people. Illigals do not seek out voter registers. It is the corrupt RAT politician which is our threat not desperate Mexican illegals.
"The very idea is revolting and unAmerican."
I'm sure you know whether you are revolted or not. The assertion that it's "unAmerican" is nonsense.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and neither is any other aspect of American culture.
Congratulations. Yours was the most content- and intellect-free post I've seen on FreeRepublic all day long. And your prize for this achievement is my engraved invitation for you to go jump in the crick.
The reasoning is like this: All other things being equal, the population and total wealth of a country increases as the square of the length of its border. So if a small country can afford it, then it should be even more affordable for a larger country.
We make almost twice the GDP per capita as Israel and we have more than twice the population per border mile. So if they can do it, so can we.
So far their suicide attacks have dropped off. The terrorists seem to be re-grouping and working on rocket attacks.
Yes, I know. I doubt if many people are coming across the border with the intention of stealing our country. Nevertheless, that is what is going to happen if we let them come.
Gangsters, revolutionaries, terrorists and RAT politicians all know how to use certain kinds of people for their purposes.
The only reason we don't have a free-fire zone on the border is that we have more humane alternatives. America has done more gruesome things than shoot down illegal invaders trying to enter the country. We have incinerated unarmed civilians sleeping in their beds because we had no good alternative.
I'll simply say one or the other of us is wrong, and I hope to God it's me. If so, you can continue calling me obtuse and I can continue accusing you of being blind to the threat posed by our unprotected borders and coastlines. If I'm right...well, again, I hope I'm not. Only time will tell. 'Til then, I urge you read up on how Arabs and other Middle Easterners are using forged documents, to include Hispanic names, to get into Mexico and even into the US. All's not well, and all the rose colored glasses in the world won't change that fact.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
They won't answer because they are unable to. Facts are difficult things for some folks to deal with.
He will never quit taking about Canada and the coastlines when the subject is MEXICO and is embarrassingly wrong.
If you're selling border security as an antiterrorism measure, then you need to secure all of the borders. If you're intent on securing the border with Mexico only, then (a) you need to be honest about the intended goal (stopping illegal immigrants only, not terrorists), and (b) you're going to need to secure the coastlines for about 500 miles north of San Diego and 500 miles northeast of the Rio Grande, because maritime immigrant smuggling is already a serious problem, and securing only the Mexican border will simply encourage more of it.
Mexico ain't the easiest way. Canada's much easier--they will give asylum to anyone. Asylum includes generous welfare benefits and a fast-track to Canadian citizenship. Once they have Canadian citizenship, infiltrating America is a matter of crossing the border in a perfectly legal manner.
But I don't hear anyone wanting to address securing the US-Canadian border.
Quit selling securing the Mexican border as an anti-terrorist measure--because it isn't.
"But I don't hear anyone wanting to address securing the US-Canadian border."
Oh, oh, me, me, me.
"Quit selling securing the Mexican border as an anti-terrorist measure--because it isn't."
Wouldn't do any good to secure the Canadian border and not the Mexican, either.
Read Tom Clancy's "Teeth of the Tiger?"
Yet another ignorant comment.
We have to sell border security?? We have to convince these politicians that our borders are a security risk? There are millions pouring into our country from God knows where. We have to sell border security? Huh? During war time yet? We have to sell this?
Take terrorist out of the border mix, just for a moment. This never ending flood of millions are choking off our highways, our schools, our hospitals, our jobs, our social services, our jails, and everything else. The crime and fraud is epic thanks to our leaders that pander to this coast to coast lawlessness......
Now Poobah says we have to sell this open border lunacy as a terrorist threat?
What a freaking joke! You liberal, leftist neoconservatives are absolutely beyond belief.
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