Posted on 06/29/2004 6:08:48 PM PDT by Gamecock
I don't believe in the Christian God, and the reason is because I don't think God is perfect. If He were perfect, He wouldn't have made Adam and Eve so they could sin, would He? But He made them so they could sin, so He must not be perfect. -- C.T.
Dear C.T.:
Although you may sincerely believe what you've written, I hope you won't be close-minded about it or refuse to reexamine it. After all, if God isn't perfect (as you contend), that means He can make mistakes -- and therefore it means He can't be trusted.
But the Bible is clear: God is perfect, and therefore we can trust Him -- even for our eternal salvation. The Bible says, "As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the Lord is flawless" (Psalm 18:30). Not only is God perfect in all He does, He also is perfect in all He is.
Take, for example, the case you cite of Adam and Eve. Why did God make them so they could sin and do wrong? The reason is because He didn't want them to be puppets or robots. He made them with a free will -- for only then could they freely love Him. Yes, it was a risk on God's part -- but if He hadn't taken it, Adam and Eve (and you and I) would be robots, not humans.
I can't help but wonder, however, if your real problem is something deeper. Down inside, are you refusing to believe in God out of pride, or perhaps because you want to run your own life? Whatever the reason, I pray you won't let anything keep you from Christ. God loves you, and the greatest privilege you will ever have is the privilege of knowing Him. Open your heart and mind to Christ today.
You're far too angry at women, and it's not healthy.
My advice is to find some male friends and try to bond with them. (You could offer cash, if necessary.)
Since we know you always demand the last word, you can have it. Take one more shot and then consider yourself deleted.
Quite frankly, I don't know of Dave Hunt other than hearing of his name. Can't say I have read anything he has written.
As for Philip Johnson, I think his Calvinist credentials are far superior to yours.
I am well-read enough on Calvinism to know that Calvin believed in common grace and that Spurgeon believed that God desires that all men be saved. Spurgeon also recognized that there are hyper-Calvinists, something some members of the GRPL seem to think is merely a figment of some people's imagination.
I'm pinging a few of my women friends over here Dr. E. Just so they can laugh at how incredibly stupid that statement is. They don't play in the religion wars, but we love a good laugh.
I'm not mad at women. And I'm not mad at you. You're just incredibly annoying.
You are vain, haughty, prideful, arrrogant, condescending...oh heck, you've got a thesaurus...look yourself up.
I have NO DESIRE to talk to you EVER. But if you insist on preaching to me, you will get a response. I respond because you are laughable.
Now, be the big woman you think you are and let it go.
Dr. E... Corin isn't angry at ~women~ silly. If he seems testy with you, you'd be wrong to assume some kind of weak societal prejudice.
Rest assured... it's personal.
Mrs. HairOfTheDog...
Corin..... go home..... the wimminfolk will make you some cocoa. I keep tellin' ya, this is not a nice place, the people are often a little too ~shrill~ and also ~wrong~, which is a particularly annoying combination!
~smiles~
Bwahahahahahaha! Don't mess with the man, Dr. E. He's got LOTS of GRITS friends! ;o)
Just another lady friend popping in for your defense, Corin.
Now come back home and I'll fix you a plate of bacon and mushrooms. Stop playing with folks who can't play nice! :-)
This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
Enuf said!
Nice switch there.
Just can't admit that God's Word contradicts your notion that there aren't any whom God has purposefully turned over to reprobation.
Absolutely there is, "God has turned them over to a reprobate mind...", to "turn over" is a legal term that meant a judge had turned the condemned over to the bailiff for executiuon of the sentence, with no relief possible.
I'm not from the East Coast but where I come from that's considered...ummm....a little strange. Oh well, I'm just a redneck anyways. Carry on...as usual.
Could you please explain what you mean by "spiritual experience"?
Voilition is only as good as the nature volition operates in.
Jesus came in human flesh but did not possess the sin nature passed from Adam to every human after Adam. Jesus was not begotten of man but was begotten of the Father.
You confuse temptation with having an ability to sin(sin nature). Jesus couldn't respond to Satan's temptations, they were meaningless to Christ Jesus.
If Jesus had the ability to sin, then Jesus possessed a sin nature and was not God in human flesh, nor could He be the spotless Lamb of God.
Rest assured...it's not regional...
Nothing there implies the impossibility of repentance and redemption.
Of course it does, to be turned over to a reprobate mind as Paul says in Romans, is a legal term which means the judge has turned the condemned over to the executioner of sentencing with no possibility of relief.
When you said that the Father and the Son are somehow the Holy Spirit, that is a pretty definite idea, and is modalistic.
I know...I've seen the same problem in the regions I've lived in...although rare in those areas I understand it is more prevalent in the mid to northern East Coast States.
You've probably just been reading into the wrong things...
Temptation is only effective for producing a positive response to temptation when one has a sin nature.
Jesus responded from His nature which is incapable of sin. Jesus was begotten of the Father, not of man, therefore Jesus did not have the sin nature humanity inherited from Adam.
Arminians put so much emphasis on humanity that they lose sight of the fact that Jesus had no ability to sin, rendering an exterior temptation meaningless.
Indeed, so why do you keep insisting God does contradict Himself?
Don't be offended that I don't take your word on that.
How about some proof instead of dogmatic assertions.
Could be. I probably should have never gone and seen that Stepford Wives movie.
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