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Will he be forced out? (Disabled Vet's homestead to be first in FL history taken by eminent domain)
The Golden Gate Gazette ^ | Kaydee Tuff

Posted on 04/01/2004 5:33:23 AM PST by AAABEST

Jesse Hardy's fight to keep his 160 acres in the Southern Golden Gate Estates will return to Tallahassee, Apr. 13, for a final hearing before the Florida Cabinet.

"It's possible the Cabinet could defer it again, but we're confident they will approve eminent domain," says Kathalyn Gaither, land acquisition public information officer for the Department of Environmental Protection (DEP).

Located in what is called the "Hole in the Donut," the property is part of the state's 55,000-acre buy-out to restore natural water flows to the Southern Golden Gate Estates (SGGE), once slated for development.

Hardy has owned the property for 28 years. He is the last of thousands of individual property owners whose land was targeted for the Picayune Strand State Forest. What began as a willing seller program turned into condemnation when the project was tied to the $100 million Everglades water restoration project in the late 1990s.

If the state condemns Hardy's land, it will be the first time in Florida history that a homesteaded property has been taken for environmental purposes.

Gaither says if Hardy does not take the $1.5 million offer that's on the table, the selling price will go back to the state's original offer of $909,158 if the Cabinet and Governor approve eminent domain.

The 67-year-old Florida native says he doesn't care - the property is not for sale at any price. A disabled Navy SEAL who has never lived an easy life, he says he's not interested in a condo on the beach or living in an urban setting.

"It's my home and it means more to me than the money. If it (condemnation) was for something useful to the public health and well-being, like a school, a fire station, or a hospital, I would move with no problem," he says.

Although he is skeptical of the success of portions of the rehydration plan, Hardy maintains he supports the project. He says his land is not necessary to the restoration project and he will not be adversely affected by it.

"I'm not against any of the environmentalists' work to rehydrate the Southern Golden Gate Estates," he says. "I'm all for it. I just want to keep my home."

Gaither says Hardy's land is necessary to the project.

"The South Florida Water Management District has conducted modeling that shows that even if there is no flooding on his property, there will be no roads and there will be demolition all around him, posing safety concerns," she says.

Hardy, who once sold real estate for Golden Gate Estates' developer Gulf American Corporation (GAC), homesteaded his rustic property in 1976. With the exception of an excavation pond underway, the property looks very much the same today as it did 28 years ago.

Using propane and a gas-powered generator, he lives in a tiny wood frame home with a friend he took in and her handicapped eight-year-old son.

"Living here is what has kept me going," he says. "It's my home. I'm too old to go anywhere else."

Hardy continues to hold out. One year ago, the governor and Cabinet were asked to initiate condemnation proceedings on his property. Instead, they instructed DEP land acquisition agents to continue to try to negotiate a deal.

Hardy and Gaither both agree that no progress has been made over the past year.

"If I let them get away with it, and they take my home for environmental reasons, then every homeowner in the state of Florida will be in jeopardy," he says. "There's nothing to restore on my land - nothing but pine and Sabal palm. It's my home - it's just that simple - and I won't give it up. I will fight to the very end. I will spend every nickel I've got and can get to fight this."

Hardy will not be attending the hearing in Tallahassee, but will be represented by his attorney. He says it is too emotional of an issue for him. He is also undergoing cancer treatment after having been diagnosed with the disease in November.

He is hopeful area residents will show their support by writing letters asking the governor not to grant the DEP eminent domain and allow him to keep his land.

Estates resident Cindy Kemp, founding member of the Property Rights Action Committee (PRAC), says the group fully backs Hardy. The group created and is distributing brochures on his plight and is promoting his cause through a song, "The Ballad of Jesse Hardy," written by a friend of Hardy and sung by Estates resident Bill Lhota.

"It's not right what they're doing to Jesse," she says. "We're hoping residents will understand how this ultimately affects them and their Constitutional rights."

Hardy hired an engineer to complete a study that shows the elevation of his property at 12 feet. At that height, he says his property will never be affected by the restoration project and he doesn't understand why the state is insisting on buying him out.

Nearly three years ago, Collier County gave Hardy the go-ahead to build the first of four proposed 20-acre ponds to create a fish farm, which he would like to one day open to the public for recreational fishing.

Several environmental groups including the Florida Wildlife Federation and the Collier County Audubon Society opposed the concept, but agreed to support the construction of one 20-acre pond. Any future excavation will have to be re-approved by the county this spring.

In that time, Hardy says he has dug about seven of the 20 acres of the pond. He has also completed and stocked a smaller pond, which he uses to gauge water quality and predator issues. Fill from excavation of the ponds has been purchased by the county for road building.

Hardy says his dream is to one day open his piece of paradise up to the public to fish the ponds and enjoy what he has loved for 27 years.

DEP officials say that dream is unlikely. Gaither says once eminent domain is approved, it will take six months to a year to find Hardy a place to live.

"I've already got a place to live," Hardy says. "They can look all they want - they'll never find another place like this. It's my home and there's no other place like it."

To contact the Governor email jeb.bush@myflorida.com, call 850-488-4441 or fax 850-487-0801.


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To: r9etb
The disagreement is over whether or not his land is necessary to the plan.

"His land" being the operative words here.

181 posted on 04/01/2004 4:24:29 PM PST by lewislynn (Free traders know it isn't , they just believe cheap popcorn makers raises their living standards.)
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To: AuntB
Thanks for that AuntB. We're glad she's here. She deserves every consideration, every respect.

I'm glad I have a wonderful wife who is so willing to help and be a part of that. The good Lord has truly blessed me beyond my ability to comprehend. How can I but try and reciprocate and do the same for others?

182 posted on 04/01/2004 4:57:28 PM PST by Jeff Head
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To: AuntB; All
You are welcome, Aunt B. It looks as though there is a whole new generation of FReepers out there to educate, doesn't it?

I couldn't remember all of the people that use to be on the Land grab threads, which is why I only pinged you and Sauropod and Country Dummy.

What makes this worse is that he is a vet, and has an illness that is potentially fatal. Not to mention the child, who is most probably better off in the country than in some of the cities in Florida.

I don't know what I would do, most probably grab the money and run, but that is because I'm female and would be safer in a condo or a gated community than on my on, but thats just me.

I respect the fact that this gentleman has a right to retain his property, especially since it is not necessary to the project. If anything, they should be happy to have someone who is willing to maintain the property in a natural state, plus improve it.

Who knows, if the State hadn't done this he might have left the property to them in his will. I doubt that he would do it now though.

183 posted on 04/01/2004 6:17:12 PM PST by dixie sass (To all that have served and are serving - Thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
see that you will not answer my questions. That means that you, like AAA whose comments you have stated you agree with, are demonizing liars.
184 posted on 04/01/2004 8:05:08 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: dixie sass
"It looks as though there is a whole new generation of FReepers out there to educate, doesn't it?"LOL!!! Yeah, I guess so, Dixie. I don't have the patience for it any more. I'm not around enough youngsters either, that still have an open enough mind to hear another view, know in their heart what's right and aren't so darn jaded yet. By the time they get to 20, it's too late!

You be good, honey.

188 posted on 04/01/2004 8:11:31 PM PST by AuntB ("What if they find life on Mars and it's just more pissed off Muslims?"Dennis Miller)
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To: cinFLA; AAABEST; Jeff Head; dixie sass; All
cinFLA,

You've managed to waste this entire thread, taking any focus off the subject. Happy, now?

Please stop. It's not about you, or whoever you're having an ego war with, it's about "property rights".

It seems we all need to read again Jim Robinson's post on our FR home page. Here is an excerpt:

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Our God-given liberty and freedoms are not negotiable.

189 posted on 04/01/2004 8:21:42 PM PST by AuntB ("What if they find life on Mars and it's just more pissed off Muslims?"........Dennis Miller)
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To: cinFLA
So here we go again... what have I lied about? And what is your Big truth about this case that you claim I don't see. You have again proven my point that you are here for no other reason than to try to insult people and disrupt action that others want to take. It is disgraceful behavior for a conservative.
190 posted on 04/01/2004 9:00:50 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: cinFLA
Knock it off.
191 posted on 04/01/2004 9:04:44 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
192 posted on 04/01/2004 9:14:30 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Glad to be a monthly contributor to Free Republic!)
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To: lewislynn
"His land" being the operative words here.

No -- in my example of the farmer and the dam, it's not just his land, but his land vs. the property of the people and towns downstream.

The question, which you seem to be avoiding, is: is there ever a case where an abiding public interest justifies the exercise of eminent domain, even if the target of the action is unwilling? I think the answer can, in some cases, be "yes."

193 posted on 04/02/2004 6:20:59 AM PST by r9etb
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To: AuntB
Essentially, then, you agree in principle that there are legitimate exercises of eminent domain. You're also telling us that there are cases where it is not justified, which nobody here would deny.

So in the case described in this article, it's not so much a story of Mr. Hardy, as it is the legitimacy of the project for which Florida is claiming the right of eminent domain. As I noted above, the "poor, pitiful me" tone of this particular story doesn't tell me anything about the merits of the project, or of the state's percieved need for Mr. Hardy's property. While I am willing acknowledge the possibility that Mr. Hardy is in the right, I am not willing to simply accept that based on the (very rudely stated) assertion of people on this thread that the state's claim in this case is without merit. I don't trust people who try to make their case with insults, as certain on this thread have done.

As for the example you cited, the standards of an abiding public interest (flood control) were presumably met, and the compensation provided was (I hope) just.

You've got to be careful in your story, though. Intentionally or not, what you're trying to do here is to combine the state's eminent domain case with the enviros' later actions. That's not a valid argument, unless the state proceeded with its case in sure knowledge that the enviros were going to win. (Seeing as how the state actually began building the dam, I think it's safe to say that the state was serious about building it.)

There's another thing, too: if you argue that the state shouldn't have gone ahead because the possibility that enviros might sue, then you're basically arguing that the state should be held hostage to enviro lawsuits -- which you surely wouldn't want.

194 posted on 04/02/2004 6:41:34 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb
The question, which you seem to be avoiding, is:

I'm not avoiding any questions you're avoiding the suject.

The subject is THIS article, not some dreamed up, non-existent farmers dam (where did that come from?)

If you like the government taking of private property for any reason, in this case homesteaded property, be careful what you wish for.

195 posted on 04/02/2004 6:47:30 AM PST by lewislynn (Free traders know it isn't , they just believe cheap popcorn makers raises their living standards.)
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To: lewislynn
You are avoiding the question, which is quite obviously germane to the case described in this article.

The real issue here is not Mr. Hardy, but the legitimacy of eminent domain in general (if nothing else, it has been upheld as Constitutional); and the legitimacy of its exercise in this particular instance.

If you like the government taking of private property for any reason...

Where did I say that? (Hint: I didn't. It's a strawman you built.)

196 posted on 04/02/2004 6:56:20 AM PST by r9etb
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To: AAABEST; Issaquahking
ping - I hope that they (Jeb Bush) read their e-mails. Keep us posted on this would you please. I sure hope he doesn't lose his home. Some things just aren't for sale - your pride, your honor, your love and your home, just to name a few.
197 posted on 04/02/2004 4:18:23 PM PST by isasis (Keep fighting for the right until the left has left)
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To: AAABEST
when the price is right, he'll take it.. that's what our country is about $$$$$ with his medical coplications, he'd probably be better off in a condo somewhere where he could get care that will inevitably be needed as he gets older..
DL
198 posted on 04/06/2004 8:00:54 PM PDT by Pee_Oui
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To: AAABEST
when the price is right, he'll take it.. that's what our country is about $$$$$ with his medical coplications, he'd probably be better off in a condo somewhere where he could get care that will inevitably be needed as he gets older..
DL
199 posted on 04/06/2004 8:00:57 PM PDT by Pee_Oui
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To: cinFLA
You are a real sicko. You post nothing of my posts, but go on a tirade and call me names. You are a real sicko.

My Irony-0-Matic meter just exploded. Thanks a lot. Do you KNOW how expensive these things are?

DG

200 posted on 06/30/2004 6:44:05 AM PDT by DGallandro
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