Posted on 10/28/2003 10:27:31 PM PST by Normally a Lurker
In some of my posts (maybe in many of my posts) here in recent days I have been rude to various other posters; most often though just when responding to posts that were insulting and rude to me. However, in reviewing various threads last night I realized that I might have at times been rude to someone who had not initiated that rudeness with me.
To those individuals I hereby apologize.
I do not wish to diminish my apology, but I would like to explain my actions. There are a very large number of posters here who (IMHO) are operating from an emotional basis, rather than a factual and logical basic, and who are very rude with anyone who disagrees with there positions.
When a relatively few objective / logical posters are positioned (by virtue of common opinions) among such a 'crowd,' it's often difficult to distinguish them. This is especially true when, in a short period of time, one has just dealt with 8-10 rude, illogical, emotional posters; and one then encounters another poster presenting the same opinions and asking the same questions, albeit, sans rudeness.
In any case, that is my excuse. But my apology (to those certain objective, logical posters to whom I've been rude) is sincere, and I'll try to do better in the future.
I would give individual apologies privately, but with the unusually large volume of posters in these threads, I'm afraid I'd overlook a few who deserve my apology. (Also, some of you I'm still unsure about.) As appropriate with some of you here, I hope you will be able to sense this though from my future exchanges with you.
Finally a warning to others: For so long as you continue to be rude to me, I will likely respond in kind. And, if you continue repeated the same illogical questions over and over, I will likely become increasingly 'testy' in my responses to you.
As usual, your comments/questions mistate the fcats. I have not "kept posting on these threads". This thread, re "apologies," is a partial exception. Some posts made here by others well after I posted that I was through with "your" 'save Terri' threads, I simply ignored. To some others, I made an acknowledgment-post in response thereto (e.g., I understand your views and appreciate the way you in which expressed them). Still some very few others essentially required that I say a little more (see actual posts above).
Again no posts have been made by me in any of "your" threads (i.e., re the 'save Terri' topic) since then. Your comments to the contrary is just one more example of you attitude towards facts - you ignore them.
Most of the rest of your post to me is even more absurd than the "why do you keep posting on these threads" question responded to above; ergo, I'm just going to ignore it.
When are you going to let this dead horse go. (See prior posts to you above re "dead horses".)
Again you try in insult me , while claiming to be an upstanding guy.
You want to stop beating a dead horse? Then do it yourself.
I have a feeling your days here are numbered anyway. You can not going around insulting people and posting apologies forever. Someone is going to get wise to your Tom Foolery. First you want me to believe you are going to drop it and ignore me, then you post yet another insult. Let's see if your next post can be insult free, logical and clear as to your intent.
My only / final comment to you is that: for so long as you continue to feel compelled to beat this dead horse on this thread (that although I initiated the thread, for purposes other than discussing the various aspects of the 'save Terri' issue, you apparently believe to be one of 'your' save Terri threads), please feel free to continue.
However, I respectyou for you way of stating these differences, and hope we can just leave it at that.
Peace - to you and yours.
The reasons for this request is explained in post #78 above.
Posters here have, on more than one occasion, said in this and other threads, that the issue / principle here is "not your right to die." That phraseology is misleading, inflammatory, and insulting, albeit somewhat less so than references to murder, killing, starving, etc.
Simply stated, the issue is about ones right not to be artificially sustained in an unbearable and/or undignified condition for an extended period against ones wishes when the condition precludes reasonable chance of recovery to an acceptable condition.
Note that key words in that more proper definition of the issue are "artificial" and "ones wishes."
For further clarity, I've not said that anything should be done against ones wishes. Ergo, one should have the opposite of the above right. That being a right to be artificially sustained in an unbearable and/or undignified condition for an extended period if one wishes.
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Lest you feel compelled to comment about me continuing to post on a matter about which I said I would no long post, and since you have a tendency to misinterpret many, many things: I'm compelled to point out that the above is a discussion of my rights and others rights in general. It is not a discussion of "Terri's" rights.
Further, you have inaccurately described the purpose of this thread repeatedly, a thread that I initiated to apologize to a few posters. You have repeatedly tried to turn it into a discussion of the 'save Terri' issue. I did not initiate it for that purpose and I've tried to rebuff your and others attempts to turn it into such a discussion, even before I decided to cease discussing the 'save Terri' issues in other threads at this site.
Also, as I've said above, I'm open to private discussion of the 'save Terri' issue and have issued an invitation to any and all to join such a discussion. You have elected to not take me up on that invitation, but rather you continued to try to goad me into discussing that mater here.
As to your implying that I have posted at this site using another screen name, as usual, you are simply wrong. I have never used another screen name at this site since registering here over five years ago. In fact, I've been very careful at other similar sites to use the NAL screen name, or even NAL_FR, or FR_NAL, so that posters here who go to such sites know who I am. Unlike many others here (possibly you included?) who use / have used other screen names, I've no interest in deceiving anyone in that game-playing way.
And, I'm aware that Jim Rob has the means to detect multiple user-ID posters, via IP address, etc. in most cases. Therefor, given your wild accusation (something that I have observed that you are prone to do on a very wide variety of subjects) in this regard, I'd welcome a review by Jim Rob and/or the moderators here of whether or not I've ever used another screen name here. Would you welcome such a review of your activities as well?
Finally, I'm very comfortable here with letting others judge by reviewing this entire thread just which one of us is lacking self control.
Possibly you should have quit beating this dead hose a very long time ago.
While your unwarranted and inaccurate accusation (re dual screen name use) is insulting, I must say that I would be proud to have been the one to make most of those posts. In fact, it appears that 'saveterri1' has posted the greatest volume of factual information on that subject of any poster at this site, myself included. The problems and issues here might greatly subside if you and various other posters in those threads were to acquire even half the level of accurate knowledge of the subject as 'saveterri1' apparently has.
I'm compelled (especially given your accusation) to note that since I suggested yesterday that you might be a clone of one of the various posters who used to stalk me here years ago as you have been recently, or possibly even be one of them using a new screen name, you have not denied this.
This is really my last post to you here. I won't repeat that to you five times, so you will have to get it this one and only time.
My focus has been renewed to help fight for Terri's constitutional rights and her right to life. I am glad to see some more of the media has been able to see the truth, that Terri is not dying, is not in a coma and is not brain dead, does not ahve a wih to die and never had a living will.
I have to go do some work today for Terri and for America.
Now, I realize you are the type of person who has to have the last word.. so go ahead and respond to me again that you really are going to stop posting to me. Although you and I both know it isn't really necessary, and you know I won't read it.. but you will think that you have achieved your goal. As they say go ahead and make your day!
Thank you very much. I'm glad to see that you've finally decided to cease your attempts to goad me into discussing the 'Terri' issue openly here at this site, against the site owneres wishes.
You haven't posted any information on the subject, factual or otherwise, that I have seen. Just opinion. Uninformed opinion at that.
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