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  • Pope Francis Shocks Workers With Pro-Capitalism Pitch

    05/29/2017 8:44:00 AM PDT · 57 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to onedoug

    Whoa, my bad typo! I means we have an obligatiom to “pray” for him, not “pay” for him!!

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/29/2017 8:40:52 AM PDT · 299 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to metmom

    "It would be more productive and conducive to mutual appreciation if we would ASK what the other person believes, and focus our TELLING on what WE believe."

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/29/2017 8:05:21 AM PDT · 298 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to metmom
    "And, as usual, that verse is taken out of context. The verse about listening to the church in no way establishes it as an ultimate hierarchical system that Rome has become."

    Did I write that? I certainly did not, nor did I imply it, nor did I think it.

    I do wish you're quit imputing to me what I did not say. It unfairly puts me int he position of having to refute things I never said to begin with.

    We'd both learn a lot more, I think, and appreciate each other better,if we would ASK the other person what they believe, rather than TELL them what they believe.

    The only thing you can really confidently TELL, is what YOU believe. It would be more pro

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/29/2017 7:59:04 AM PDT · 297 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to metmom
    Young extensive Scripture quotes are apt and good instruction. They repay careful reading.

    Some of your conclusions need reconsideration. God's standards are standards which neither the laity nor the clergy of any denomination can fully meet, and which they all often traduce scandalously; and the churches with the longest history down the millennia (e.g. Catholic and Orthodox) have, inevitably, the longest records of falling short of the Glory of God; and this goes all the way back to our near-total abandonment of Our Lord at Calvary.

    As for the obligation to enforce godly standards: I completely agree with you. I have in mind, for instance, that Pope Benedict XVI constantly reiterated the perennial moral doctrines and personally removed 400 priests from the active priesthood and was almost universally criticized for it as being pharisaical, judgmental, an unbending legalist, etc. (when people took notice of it at all).

    Play your other cards and emphasize mercy and patient accompaniment, and you're slammed for that, too.

    It's very hard to "do" at one go, both the deepest loving-kindness and the strictest righteousness. I long to see the true Messianic standard: 'Mercy and Truth are met together, Righteousness and Peace have kissed.' (Psalm 85:10 --- thrilling and challenging to me.) I would like a lot more "discipline" from the Bishop of Rome all the way down to the newest deacon. If you'd like the same: ---seriously --- pray for them.


  • Pope Francis Shocks Workers With Pro-Capitalism Pitch

    05/29/2017 7:31:45 AM PDT · 40 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to HiTech RedNeck

    Very thoughtful series of comments. I’m always glad when you’re on the thread, HiTech.

  • Pope Francis Shocks Workers With Pro-Capitalism Pitch

    05/29/2017 7:30:02 AM PDT · 38 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to onedoug
    He does sometimes seem like conjoined twins called "Good Francis & Bad Francis."

    I do think we have an obligation to pay for him. As St. Paul says...


  • Pope Francis Shocks Workers With Pro-Capitalism Pitch

    05/29/2017 7:27:19 AM PDT · 37 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to VanShuyten
    Well, he didn't say "seeking profit is bad." His message is "only" seeking profit is bad.

    And that's correct. If distributing porn is more profitable than distributing legit entertainment -- if doing abortions is more profitable than doing prenatal care --- if transplanting your operation to Mexico is more profitable than operating in Texas ---

    I don't think we want to come out for "only" profits.

  • Pope Francis Shocks Workers With Pro-Capitalism Pitch

    05/29/2017 7:20:57 AM PDT · 31 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to Rusty0604

    I know what you mean. Pope Francis said he’s “listen” to Trump -— and quite possibly he did!

  • Pope Francis Shocks Workers With Pro-Capitalism Pitch

    05/29/2017 5:28:47 AM PDT · 1 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o
    “Business is a noble vocation.” -- Pope Francis
  • Hamptons bachelors are getting vasectomies so golddiggers can’t trap them

    05/28/2017 4:36:36 PM PDT · 32 of 85
    Mrs. Don-o to SMGFan

    Selfish soulless sexinsects scr*wing each other. I can’t think of anything less romantic.

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/28/2017 4:22:58 PM PDT · 280 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to MHGinTN

    People who don’t appreciate hierarchy won’t appreciate the Book of Acts or the Epistles, where we see the basic hierarchy of diaconoi - presbyteroi-episcopoi being established by the calling of select men and the laying on of hands; and, as Fr. Pope’s article points out, the calling of authoritative councils and synods.

    Tagline, from Matthew — a direct quote from Jesus.

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/28/2017 4:14:45 PM PDT · 279 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to mrobisr
    The way you phrase your question is anachronistic. At the time of the seven Churches of Revelation 1, there was neither a "Roman" church in the jurisdictional sense (I hardly think churches in 1st century Anatolia would have seen themselves as being under the jurisdiction of the See of Rome) nor a Protestant Church.

    There was one term for the "church as a whole" (cata holos,) and that we can properly call the Catholic Church.

    It would be interesting to learn how they responded to Apostolic discipline by one of the original Bishops. If they heeded John's correction, I'd call them Catholic. If they blew it off, maybe they were non-denom. :o/

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/28/2017 3:56:29 PM PDT · 277 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to MHGinTN


  • Write a letter to terrorists! Children told to ‘respect’ killers in new teaching aid

    05/28/2017 3:25:21 PM PDT · 14 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o to Frank_2001; sargon; Tax-chick

    In Britain -— unlike in the USA-— there was a wing of roughly WWI-era woman suffragists who did engage in terrorism. They set bombs in streetside Post Office letterboxes and I think killed some people. If you google keywords like

    Britain - suffragist - bombing

    I think you’ll find more. They were a tiny minority and some had, I think, additional issues like anti-Empire and pro-Irish independence.

  • Egyptian Christians Killed for Refusing to Renounce Their Faith in Jesus

    05/28/2017 1:52:29 PM PDT · 11 of 24
    Mrs. Don-o to davikkm

    May angels lead them into Paradise;
    may the martyrs receive them at their coming
    and lead them to the holy city
    of Jerusalem.
    May a choir of angels receive them,
    and with Lazarus,
    who once was poor,
    may they have eternal rest.
  • 8 dead in shooting rampage in Mississippi; suspect arrested

    05/28/2017 1:33:17 PM PDT · 29 of 42
    Mrs. Don-o to MinuteGal; x1stcav
    The perp

  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/28/2017 12:39:53 PM PDT · 274 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to Elsie
    "And yet Rome can put forward all kinds of 'facts' about Mary that appear NOWHERE in Scripture."

    These doctrines derive from Sacred Tradition. So your remark is a kill-shot only for people who believe in the non-Biblical doctrine of "Sola Scriptura." That wouldn't be me.


  • Trump And Melania Hold Hands In Sistine Chapel, Observe 'Last Judgement'

    05/28/2017 12:35:36 PM PDT · 69 of 69
    Mrs. Don-o to Bodleian_Girl
    God has associated all believers in His saving Work, by incorporating them into the Body of Christ.

    John 14:12
    Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes in me will do the works that I do, and will do greater ones than these, because I am going to the Father.

    What do you think he meant by that? Nothing?

    Or this:

    Romans 2:6-8
    God will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness.

    (2:6 "Will repay everyone according to his works": Paul reproduces the Septuagint text of Ps 62:12 and Prv 24:12. To Paul, the Septuagint was simply "Scripture" --- to you, perhaps, not?)

    If this seems to contrast with the places where Paul says, repeatedly "faith, not works" --- isn't the explanation that by "works of the Law" he meant all the observances of the Mosaic Law, that is, the 613 mitzvot? For he, and Jesus, clearly expect us to effectively participate in some kind of work other than the 613 mitzvot -- namely, in Jesus' own, all-effective work of salvation.

    Then there's this:

    1 Corinthians 3:9 "For we are God’s co-workers; you are God’s field, God’s building"

    Co-workers for what? Let Paul give you a hint:

    1 Corinthians 15:58
    Therefore, my beloved brothers, be firm, steadfast, always fully devoted to the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain.

    Their work, in the Lord, is not "in vain". In other words, it is not a superfluous token: it is efficacious.

    Galatians 5:6
    For in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything [these are 'works of the law'], but only faith working through love.

    Ah, that's it: "faith working through love." And mind-blowing as it is, that's the reason why God created us: He created us for these works:

    Ephesians 2:10
    For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them.

    This is efficacious for what? Paul says, for salvation:

    Philippians 2:12
    So then, my beloved, obedient as you have always been, not only when I am present but all the more now when I am absent, work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

    Does this mean we are saving ourselves, picking ourselves up by our own bootstraps as it were? Nonsense! Of course not! This is efficacious *ONLY* because we are in Christ. It is all done by Christ.

    Christ is so close to His Church, He actually identifies with it. When Saul of Tarsus was persecuting the church, Jesus confronted him with this question: "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" And when Saul asked, "Who are you, sir?" he received this answer: "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting."

    Jesus identified fully and personally with His persecuted church!

    Surely Saul/Paul thought of this many times, for instance, in his magnificent teaching that the Church is the Body of Christ.

    How grateful we should be that God has made us members of His Body, co-workers, co-carriers of the Cross (Mark 8:34) and associated every one of us in His saving Work.


  • It is the Decision of the Holy Spirit and Us – A Reflection on the Catholicity of the Early Church

    05/28/2017 12:04:07 PM PDT · 273 of 299
    Mrs. Don-o to Elsie; mrobisr
    Some Protestants acknowledge that the Catholic Church existed in the Apostolic Era ---you among them, Elsie, it seems. Some Protestants think Catholicism didn't exist until --- oh, I don't know --- mrobisr thinks the 5th or maybe the 6th century; some others peg the beginning of Catholicism (founded by Constantine, dont'cha know!) to the Council of Nicaea, 4th century; some say the real-church apostasized and became the wayward Catholic church even before that: it petered out right after Peter apparently, and that petered-out church was Catholicism.

    But when, exactly? Ahem! Make up your minds!

    To make it even more complicated, the Mormons, the Muslims, and the "Woman-Church" Feminists all agree that the Church ran off the rails WAY early, and consequently corrupted the Scriptures! Bigtime! So what passes for "Scripture" now is completely unreliable, abominable even, because it is the product of these apostates, the Catholics! Maybe even Paul was the first corrupter, constructing an anti-Gospel. Ask any Muslim, Inshallah!

    What they all have in common, is that they do not believe that Jesus actually founded a church, that He did not leave her an orphan, and that He actually sent the Holy Spirit to lead and protect her. And I'm not talking about just a purely undocumentable, ahistoric, aphasic, invisible church (the Church of the Headless Hammer Without a Handle). I'm talking about one you can locate in the phone book.

    What they (Muslims, Mormons, Woman-Church and allies Right and Left) cannot credit, is that Christ's church is His bride, both visible and invisible, and her quite-visible activities can be traced around the world, as she makes her pilgrim way through history.

    What about bad popes? Out of 266 popes since Peter, there have been a few stinkers: 8 or 9, by my informal count (I forced myself to read Lives of the Popes when I was in High School, and made a list of baddies!) Most have been godly men, in the B-to-C range in teaching, administration, works of mercy, diplomacy; and a goodly number have been stellar, A+ saints.

    How to account for the bad ones? Tares among the wheat. We were told from the start to expect this. It may sadden, but should not surprise us.

    They're very much like the original Twelve Apostles: one out-and-out traitor, one triple-denier, nine abandoning their Captain and headed for the tall grass at the moment of crisis, --- and one at the foot of the Cross.

    It is these sinners (and I am right in there) who are Christ's co-workers ("For we are co-workers in God's service", 1 Cor 3:9) receiving His saving word even as we listen to (and are) His Church.


  • Democrat Alderman Wants The Elderly To GET OUT Of His City [WATCH]

    05/28/2017 8:24:49 AM PDT · 28 of 68
    Mrs. Don-o to mewzilla

    Indigent elderly who built your world.