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  • History, Truth, and Politics: the record on Father Junipero Serra

    03/31/2015 5:10:08 AM PDT · 25 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o to Carry_Okie

    Thank you, Carrie-Okie.

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/31/2015 5:08:05 AM PDT · 620 of 630
    Mrs. Don-o to DungeonMaster

    All of this sounds both unfamiliar and over-the-top to me. Where did you get it? Is there a link?

  • History, Truth, and Politics: the record on Father Junipero Serra

    03/31/2015 4:46:14 AM PDT · 24 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o to fish hawk
    "They’re (sic) motto was kill the indian to save his soul."

    This is a damned lie. I'd like to see your source.

  • History, Truth, and Politics: the record on Father Junipero Serra

    03/31/2015 4:42:55 AM PDT · 23 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o to fish hawk
    When you speak of the many Indians killed by "arms and disease" you are not speaking of Serra's missions. And your reference to Hitler crudely suggests a genocide policy, which is the opposite of what the Franciscan Missions were to the native Californians.

    The Californians' vulnerability to European diseases was a bio-tragedy, not policy. In many parts of this Hemisphere, diseases spread faster than Spaniards: in other words, once the disease was introduced into the Amerindian population at the coast, it spread inland like wildfire, years before the Spanish set foot in the interior. It was no more a "genocide" (a policy of extermination) than was the Black Plague in 14th century Europe. The only place the Indians could get treatment --- inadequate as it was at the time --- was in the missions. That was one reason why so many willingly came to the missions.

    As for arms, the Franciscans were firmly opposed to the policies of the Spanish military in the presidios, who wanted to round up Indians as slave or serf-labor for the haciendas. A further reason why native Californians came to the missions willingly, was because they were sanctuaries against abduction by slave-catchers and the military.

    One of the reasons I am glad for Serra's canonization is that the historians will have a chance to win out against the Left-wing propagandists.

  • History, Truth, and Politics: the record on Father Junipero Serra

    03/30/2015 6:35:02 PM PDT · 6 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o to Salvation

    Ping

  • History, Truth, and Politics: the record on Father Junipero Serra

    03/30/2015 6:28:17 PM PDT · 5 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o to forgotten man
    Serra directly opposed both the slave-catchers and the military who wanted to prostitute the Indian women. The Indians who entered the mission system for protection did so freely, and they were treated the same as the monks: once in, they were not allowed to leave, they learned literacy and manual skills; they worked, and they shared equitably in the products of their labor. They could be subject to corporal punishment for theft, for fleeing their responsibilities, by refusing to work (like like monks, or even just as they would be in their own tribes.) Solders of the Spanish crown fared much worse!

    There was no money, because neither the California Indians nor the Franciscans had a money economy: they had a customary exchange-based economy.

    The Spanish military wanted the Indians to get into a money economy, because he wanted them to pimp their own sisters, wives and daughters to the soldiers for money and liquor. When Serra opposed this, they agitated to the governor to get the system taken away from the Franciscans.

    Eventually the Indians ended up like serfs on the haciendas, and sexual consorts for the soldiers, but this was not Serra's doing. He strove, labored and suffered to obtain the well-being and redemption of the California Indians all his life.

    In this tumultuous contact of two civilizations (Spanish and Indian) the Spanish ascendancy was inevitable; but the way they did it was unconscionable. Serra was an opponent of the colonial military power structure and did everything he knew how could to protect the Indians and to safeguard their human dignity.

    If we were in the exact same situation, with the same range of options, we would have done nobly indeed to do the exact same thing.

  • History, Truth, and Politics: the record on Father Junipero Serra

    03/30/2015 6:02:39 PM PDT · 1 of 25
    Mrs. Don-o
    The Leftists hate Serra, for all the usual reasons: white, Christian, European. Serra was a world-class hero. It's great that he's finally going to be canonized, and good to see Pope Francis blowing off the PC crowd.
  • Mumia Abu-Jamal ailing, supporters say

    03/30/2015 5:10:54 PM PDT · 22 of 74
    Mrs. Don-o to PROCON

    Daniel Faulkner was unavailable for comment.

  • Pope Francis Says Protecting the Environment Is 'Ultimate Pro-Life...Pro-Family' Issue

    03/30/2015 5:04:33 PM PDT · 43 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to combat_boots
    "I see Francis’ encyclical as dangerously close to that. The HOW gets me."

    The HOW gets me, too. HOW can you make sweeping judgments on this encyclical when it hasn't even been published yet?

    I know we're all paranoid, but I say wait until you have something to quote.

    I can confidently predict that 99% of the people with opinions on both sides ("Yay Francis' and "Boo Francis") will keep churning out opinions by the bushel basket without EVER reading the encyclical.

    And that's what makes it so easy for the EneMedia to frame things as they see best.

    Here's my own pre-publication flight of fancy: I'm betting the Pope is going to use this opportunity to defend the Natural Family based on One-Man-One-Woman Marriage; Natural Sex (no contraception, no perversion); the Right to Life of the Unborn Child; and the Biblical "human speciesism" which positions humans as being stewards of creation and therefore superior to, while responsible for, the rest of the living things God created.

    If Bill and Melinda Gates aren't "troubled" by the direction Francis is taking this in, I'll be well and truly disappointed.

  • SciCheck: Cruz on the global cooling myth and how he's like Galileo

    03/30/2015 3:07:35 PM PDT · 54 of 57
    Mrs. Don-o to Fledermaus

    I’m slowly on the mend. In fact, I need to go out and walk right now, before we run out of daylight.

  • Pope Francis Says Protecting the Environment Is 'Ultimate Pro-Life...Pro-Family' Issue

    03/30/2015 3:06:29 PM PDT · 40 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to combat_boots
    Yeah. I kinda thought we should wait til we have a text before freaking about what he "said."

    That part about "the traditional family" is not going to get raves from the Gaia devotees.

    And a general "obligation" to care for creation isn't sourced in Francis, but in Genesis.

  • Memory Eternal: Dad is gone (prayers please)

    03/30/2015 2:59:51 PM PDT · 22 of 74
    Mrs. Don-o to NRx

    For Your Dad

    May angels lead him into Paradise;
    may the martyrs receive him at his coming
    and lead him to the holy city
    of Jerusalem.
    May a choir of angels receive him,
    and with Lazarus,
    who once was poor,
    may he have eternal rest.
  • SciCheck: Cruz on the global cooling myth and how he's like Galileo

    03/30/2015 2:47:15 PM PDT · 52 of 57
    Mrs. Don-o to Fledermaus

    My memory from 5th grade is that Pluto was a dog.

  • Pope Francis Says Protecting the Environment Is 'Ultimate Pro-Life...Pro-Family' Issue

    03/30/2015 2:18:44 PM PDT · 36 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to combat_boots

    Quote me “the Pope’s command”, please. A link would help.

  • Pope Francis Says Protecting the Environment Is 'Ultimate Pro-Life...Pro-Family' Issue

    03/30/2015 2:16:34 PM PDT · 35 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to Gamecock

    Your odds-maker must have gotten into the Guinness.

  • SciCheck: Cruz on the global cooling myth and how he's like Galileo

    03/30/2015 1:56:05 PM PDT · 39 of 57
    Mrs. Don-o to justlurking
    Great, Great, Great, Great, Great.

    Average Great! But really it's just Median. :oP

  • SciCheck: Cruz on the global cooling myth and how he's like Galileo

    03/30/2015 1:46:02 PM PDT · 35 of 57
    Mrs. Don-o to justlurking
    Not to be to-o-o-o picky, but I think there are three kinds of averages: mean, median, and mode. So if we agree that when "half are above, half are below" it's the "median", it's still a type of average.

    Dictionary.com (LINK) defines "mean" as an average, and then says, "Two other common forms of averages are the median and mode."

    Though a lot of people do use "average" to mean "arithmetic mean" only.

  • SciCheck: Cruz on the global cooling myth and how he's like Galileo

    03/30/2015 1:32:23 PM PDT · 31 of 57
    Mrs. Don-o to rightwingcrazy; Phillyred
    "There have now been 360 consecutive months when the global temperature was above the 20th century average."

    360 months = 30 years. 1200 months = 100 years = 20th century.

    Half of the 20th century temps were above average. Half were below average. That's what "average" means.

    I think we can figure out the relative significance of this.

  • Pope Francis Says Protecting the Environment Is 'Ultimate Pro-Life...Pro-Family' Issue

    03/30/2015 12:33:11 PM PDT · 33 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to Gamecock; Uncle Miltie; Opinionated Blowhard
    Depends on what he says, and with what level of authority.

    If ,for instance, he says "Destroying people's air, water, and soil resources is wrong" --- he's right. You can't be destroying other peoples' --- or future generations' ---necessities of life. God made this world for everyone, including our children. Creation-care, tending the garden, is one of the first mandates from God in Genesis.

    BUT...

    If he says "We have to all reduce our CO2 and stop global warming" (or any other specific policy recommendation supposedly based on the physical sciences) he's simply speaking outside of his competence.

  • On taking John 6 literally

    03/30/2015 12:04:48 PM PDT · 117 of 126
    Mrs. Don-o to RnMomof7; roamer_1
    "Your 'catalogue approach' merely demonstrates that adoption of the Eucharist was a very early addition, from before the various splits which define the liturgical churches which you would endorse."

    This is even more problematic, because it suggests that the whole Church, "before the various splits," actually accepted what Jesus and St. Paul said about the Eucharist being Jesus' Real Body and Blood, and no church body seriously disputed that for 1500 years. This means the Holy Spirit abandoned the whole "un-split" Church to gross error and left it there for a millennium-and-a-half --- until some Western Europeans finally "got it" that Jesus wasn't serious about that Body and Blood stuff anyhow (yuck).

    "Gates of Hell" wins the first 1500 rounds? And you think the Holy Spirit was perhaps asleep?

    1 Kings 18:27
    And at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, "Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened."

    But I don't think the Holy Spirit is like that. I think the Holy Spirit can be relied upon to "lead us into all truth", to protect His Church, and to endorse the words spoken by Jesus Christ.

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/30/2015 11:29:56 AM PDT · 613 of 630
    Mrs. Don-o to DungeonMaster
    In mine at 374, practically any of the meanings of "Blessed" would fit with "Mary," ---- and ought to, since she herself said we would call her "Blessed." The only meanings that cannot fit are the ones that can apply to God alone.

    If you would care to look at the prayers recited at the Mass--- in particular Nicene Creed, the Gloria, or the Sanctus --- you will see the kinds of titles or acclamations suitable for God alone: God as absolutely supreme and source of all that exists.

    (Most of my posts contain links, and rarely do I see any evidence that anybody has actually gone to the links and learned something. But --- God being my witness--- I keep trying.)

    Let's go through your list one by one:

    Co mediator - I have never in my life called Mary "co-mediator". This term (or similar) is problematic because it invites misunderstanding: it could have both a doctrinally sound interpretation, and a heretical interpretation. It is not a dogma of the Church and has always been controversial within the Church (because it depends on how you interpret it.).

    The sound interpretation would be that she intercedes, just as we all intercede for each other. A reference to her as Mother of Our Savior who offers intercessory prayers for us is the only correct understanding. The term "Mediatrix' is used only once in an official Church document, to my knowledge ---Lumen gentium --- and there it had this explanation:

    "This, however, is to be so understood that it neither takes away from nor adds anything to the dignity and efficaciousness of Christ the one Mediator."

    In this sense, I can call you a mediator -- if you would be so good as to pray for me.

    Co redeemer - the exact same things I said about “Co-Mediator” apply to this, i.e. it is not a dogma of the Church, I have never used it, it invites heretical interpretation, and it has always been controversial in the Church. For instance, in the Middle Ages, Franciscans were for it, Dominicans were against it. They used to debate it at the University of Paris: as I remember, the controversy got so rancorous that eventually the University rectors barred further argument and the term fell into disuse.

    As Ott’s “Dogmatics” summarizes --- quoting St. Ambrose-- “the Passion of Christ did not need any assistance.”

    Immaculately conceived - Kecharitomene. That’s got deep Biblical roots. I would trace it all the way back to Genesis 3:15 --- the woman with the pure Seed, our Savior Jesus Christ, who would defeat the Satanic serpent. If He is her Seed, she would have to be pure as He is pure, since He has His human nature from her.

    Ever virgin - Ever-virgin is evidently what Mary intended to be. There’s no reason for her to say “How can this (conceiving a child) be, since I know not man?” ---if she thought she were soon to be “knowing” with Joseph! Plus, Scripture reveals that “her other children” means, Christian believers (Revelation 12:17 - “Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.”)

    Dispenser of all graces - synonym for “Co-Mediator” and the same comments apply: Not a dogma, not defined, could be interpreted one way or another. I consider it problematic for those reasons.

    As the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 967-970 says, "No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source."

    Queen of heaven - See relevant discussion on Queenship. It would be profitable for you to use your Concordance and look up all the OT verses on Queenship which prefigure Mary. All Scripture is good for teaching (2 Timothy 3:16).

    Yadda yadda yadda - Since you concede my point that "blessed has many uses is true,” why don’t you use it in its proper sense when you talk or write about Mary? God evidently wants you to: it's part of Biblical prophecy.

  • 34K Black And Latino Churches Cut Ties With Presbyterian USA After Same-Sex Marriage Approval

    03/30/2015 5:05:17 AM PDT · 12 of 23
    Mrs. Don-o to MulberryDraw; Biggirl
    Correction on myself: the National Black Churches Initiative is a church-related civil rights group with offices in Washington, DC. Their 34K member churches fund them to do political lobbying. It's this group which has broken with PC-USA.

    http://ballotpedia.org/The_National_Black_Churches_Initiative

    Any more details would be welcome.

  • 34K Black And Latino Churches Cut Ties With Presbyterian USA After Same-Sex Marriage Approval

    03/30/2015 4:59:58 AM PDT · 10 of 23
    Mrs. Don-o to MulberryDraw; Biggirl
    Not sure, but these 34K Black churches are actually not PC-USA, but are in some sort of interfaith partnership or coalition with them. It's this coalition they're ditching.

    If I am mistaken about this, I would appreciate somebody correcting me.

  • 34,000 Black Churches Break Ties With Presbyterian Church USA

    03/30/2015 4:34:43 AM PDT · 57 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to Arthur McGowan

    Well argued.

  • Tree Grown From 2,000-Year-Old Seed Has Reproduced

    03/29/2015 5:58:24 PM PDT · 13 of 45
    Mrs. Don-o to Jack Hydrazine
    This is wonderful news. As I understand it, the Judean date used to be a prized export and a big money-maker in Judea back 2 millennia ago. The Romans deliberately wiped them out --- wiped out every one, or so they hoped --- to cause destitution among the Judeans in revenge for anti-Roman rebellions.

    That they could get that germ line activated again is really splendid. Tip o' the kippah to the great Israeli agronomists.

  • Tree Grown From 2,000-Year-Old Seed Has Reproduced

    03/29/2015 5:53:23 PM PDT · 9 of 45
    Mrs. Don-o to Paladin2

    Lookin’ for a date?

  • On taking John 6 literally

    03/29/2015 5:34:01 PM PDT · 71 of 126
    Mrs. Don-o to RnMomof7; roamer_1; don-o
    "Catholics do no want to admit that even in the NT church false teaching and false doctrine were present."

    ((((Sigh))))) We, too, have read the Epistles. One of the important jobs of the Apostolic hierarchy was rooting out these false doctrines. You will NEVER find a Catholic who does not realize that Peter, Paul, James and John spent a lot of their energy in keeping the doctrine pure and undiluted despite the erroneous opinions of independent preachers and interpreters who were not authorized by the Apostolic leadership.

    "Even Augustine felt John 6 was a metaphor ..."

    Your problem is, you don't know enough about Augustine.

    In one passage from a book called "On Christian Instruction," Augustine notes, "Christ says, "Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you shall not have life in you" --- It seems to command crime or vice." Here his purpose is to distinguish the Eucharist from cannibalism.

    In fact, the Eucharist is different from cannibalism in essential ways. Cannibalism is the eating of parts of a dead body--- and when it's all consumed, that's it: there's no more. The Eucharist is the eating of the whole Christ --- Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity ---- whole and entire (not parts), living (not dead) and inexhaustible. Even if a million people receive the Eucharist, they are, each one of them, receiving the whole Christ, glorified, resurrected, living and true. This is clearly not a matter of cannibals gnawing on a limited ration of gristle and bone.

    Augustine emphasizes that the Lord’s body and blood are communicated under the "appearance," "sign," "symbol" or "figure" of bread and wine. Even today the Catechism of the Catholic Church uses the terms "sign" and "symbol" to describe the Eucharist in paragraphs 1148 and 1412. It means that the appearance of the bread and wine are unchanged. The "substance" --- their underlying reality ---- is that they are the Body and Blood of the Lord.

    Augustine is in full agreement with this:

    Sermons 234, 2 (ca. AD 400):

    "The faithful know Christ in the breaking of the bread. For not all bread, but only that which receives the blessing of Christ, becomes Christ’s body." Explanations of the Psalms (ca. 400):

    "For Christ was carried in His own hands, when, referring to His own Body, He said: “This is My Body.” For He carried that Body in His hands."

  • 34,000 Black Churches Break Ties With Presbyterian Church USA

    03/29/2015 4:51:58 PM PDT · 55 of 59
    Mrs. Don-o to Arthur McGowan
    "Gay marriage" is a camel-size problem. And absolutely spewing that out of their mouths --- getting things right on marriage --- foreshadow getting other things right as well.

    Please remember that love hopes.

  • On taking John 6 literally

    03/29/2015 4:02:10 PM PDT · 69 of 126
    Mrs. Don-o to knarf
    "Is there ANY scriptural evidence the apostles that did not depart ... actually practiced communion, or the eucharistic practice ... of bread to flesh, wine to blood ?" Are you asking whether the Apostles celebrated the Eucharist and believed it to be the Body and Blood of the Lord?

    I would say your best Scriptural evidence would be in Corinthians:

    1 Corinthians 10:16
    Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?

    1 Corinthians 11:27
    So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 11:29
    For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves.

    Paul says the cup for which the are giving thanks is actually participation in the blood of the Lord; likewise the bread, a participation in His Body. Then he goes on to say that if they receive unworthily, they are sinning against His actual Body and Blood, and they should not fail to discern that this IS the body of Christ.

  • A Catholic School Removes Teacher for Defending Faith

    03/29/2015 3:34:50 PM PDT · 15 of 17
    Mrs. Don-o to sitetest

    If you don’t know his official Lowerarchy name... I think it’s -— Oh no, I’m suppressing my snark, so I can’t say it.

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 3:28:57 PM PDT · 25 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to sparklite2

    That’s not true.

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 10:54:38 AM PDT · 15 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to SpirituTuo

    Thank you. Please re-double the prayers. (I preach this also to myself.)

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 10:52:43 AM PDT · 14 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to sitetest
    Thank you for your energizing, inspiring, motivating, faith-hope-love filled, infallible pessimism.

    But some of us know where to find what we're looking for.
  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 10:37:44 AM PDT · 11 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to ebb tide
    Weren't Baldisseri, Marx and Kasper exposed by their own presumptuous blunders as racists and liars, and good grief, postal thieves?

    And isn't Burke free of ANY supervisory constraints, free with the time, the money, the international connections and the patronage of the Knights of Malta, to influence every member of the upcoming Synod? Do you think he lacks the ability, the inclination, or the means?

    Watch and pray. Looks like a classic coming up.

    The LORD told Gideon, "With these 300 men I will rescue you and give you victory ... I will deliver the whole army and I will hand Midian over to you."

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/29/2015 10:29:24 AM PDT · 572 of 630
    Mrs. Don-o to Zuriel
    "So, even though God is omnipresent, he watches Mary’s army of angels come and go to her, and then let’s her make the request made known to Him. And I AM THE ONE minimizing God’s power?"

    I never said one word minimizing God's power. Every time humans plug into intercessory prayer --- like, Zuriel, please pray for my friend Roz's bad back --- God knows all about it and has always known all about it.

    So why do we "do" intercessory prayer at all? Or, for that matter, why do we pray at all, since God knows everything before a word comes out of our mouth, even before a thought forms in our minds?

    Answer that, and you've answered it all.

  • Oakland Kids Get A Raise From The New Minimum Wage

    03/29/2015 10:22:12 AM PDT · 38 of 55
    Mrs. Don-o to headstamp 2; fatnotlazy

    All these grill jobs are going to be robotized in 5 years. You watch.

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 10:11:52 AM PDT · 8 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to Jeff Chandler

    #6 for you, too.

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 10:11:08 AM PDT · 7 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to ebb tide
    We'll see, won't we?

    St. Nicholas, pray for us!

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 10:01:37 AM PDT · 4 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to ebb tide; marshmallow
    I'm going to stick my neck out here and say it was set up that way so that the dissenters can have the fullest possible "say," and emboldened by their perceived power, thus reveal the depth of their apostasy and be well and truly refuted.

    Why were Arians invited to Nicaea?

  • Vatican Cardinal to German Bishops: We Can’t Adapt Faith to Times Like Christians Under The Nazis

    03/29/2015 9:57:22 AM PDT · 3 of 26
    Mrs. Don-o to marshmallow
    "Cardinal Koch, president of the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, said that Bode's words should remind us of a similar historical situation: namely the time of the Third Reich..." Ouch. That's gotta leave a mark...
  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/29/2015 9:49:40 AM PDT · 570 of 630
    Mrs. Don-o to Zuriel
    You minimize God's power and intent to respond to intercession in order to accomplish His will. None of this intercession takes away from God's omniscience, omnipresence, or omnipotent power, but it DOES illustrate His inconceivable generosity in involving us --- weak creatures --- in the great works of healing, restoration, salvation.

    Your whole response shows the implicit assumption that there's a tension, or even a contradiction, between having huge interactive networks of intercession, encompassing those in heaven and on earth, and God's absolute sovereignty.

    If it were not God's will to involve us in His great work, most of the OT and NT would be irrelevant. The reality of the Mystical Body of Christ --- that we are the cells, tissues, organs and systems, the senses and limbs incorporated into Christ, and by which Christ works even now --- would be redundant or meaningless.

    God does not intend His story to be the story of "I only." If it were, He would have never bothered with the vast generosity of Creation and the inconceivable humility of making Covenant with us. God with us. Emmanuel. What a great God this is.

  • On taking John 6 literally

    03/29/2015 9:36:21 AM PDT · 36 of 126
    Mrs. Don-o to RnMomof7; don-o
    "On taking John 6 literally Roman Catholics claim to take Jn 6 literally..."

    Just to correct the first sentence:

    "On taking John 6 literally, Western (Latin) Catholics, Alexandrian Catholics (Coptic, Eritrean and Ethiopian), West Syrian (Maronite, Syriac, Syro-Malankara), Armenian Catholic. Byzantine (Albanian, Belarusian, Bulgarian, the Catholics of Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro, Greek Catholics, Hungarian, Italo-Albanian, Macedonian, Melkite, Romanian, Russian, Ruthenian, Slovak, Ukrainian, East Syrian, Chaldean, and Syro-Malabar Catholics,

    *plus" Eastern Orthodox: Church of Constantinople, Greek Church of Alexandria, of Antioch, of Jerusalem, Russian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate), Church of Greece, Churches of Georgia, of Serbia, of Romania, of Bulgaria, of Cyprus, of Albania, of Poland, Church of Slovakia and the Czech Lands, Church of Sinai (Jerusalem Patriarchate), (Ecumenical Patriarchate) Church of Crete, of Finland, of Estonia, (Moscow Patriarchate) Church of Japan, of Ukraine, Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, Church of Ukraine (Kyiv Patriarchate), Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, Macedonian Orthodox Church,

    *plus* the Oriental Orthodox Churches: Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Church, Syriac Orthodox Church, Jacobite Syrian Church, Indian Orthodox Church, Coptic Orthodox Church, Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church,

    *plus* others I may have failed to mention, almost all of them founded 1,000 years earlier than the Reformation, many of them reading the Scriptures in the original languages, many founded by the Apostles themselves---

    claim to take Jn 6 literally..."

    Excuse the catalogue approach. It's not mere pedantry. It's illustrative of the most ancient Christian communities with the most ancient understandings of Scripture, many of whom know Greek, Western Syriac and Aramaic very well, some of whom are not under the direct jurisdiction of Rome OR Constantinople --- who don't understand why the German and English-speaking innovators just don't get it.

    If we're going to talk about the meaning of words, I would personally go back to the people who have the longest continuous lexical familiarity with those words --- as well as being much closer to the cultural contexts.

    You won't find any ancient church which does *not* believe that the elements of the Eucharist, under the appearance of bread and wine, become the true Body and Blood of Christ.

    It's the seminary-scribes of the West, I think, who have substituted spurious innovations for the continuous, lived understanding of the oldest Christian communities on the planet.

    It's probably because of the impoverished concept of "Sola Scriptura" -- a doctrine not found in Scripture, and which turns out to mean "All hail the Magisterium of the Seminary Professors," "All power to the guy who learned Greek yesterday" --- which simply spurns the wisdom of the Church.

  • On taking John 6 literally

    03/29/2015 9:33:52 AM PDT · 35 of 126
    Mrs. Don-o to RnMomof7
    "On taking John 6 literally Roman Catholics claim to take Jn 6 literally..."

    Just to correct the first sentence:

    "On taking John 6 literally, Western (Latin) Catholics, Alexandrian Catholics (Coptic, Eritrean and Ethiopian), West Syrian (Maronite, Syriac, Syro-Malankara), Armenian Catholic. Byzantine (Albanian, Belarusian, Bulgarian, the Catholics of Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro, Greek Catholics, Hungarian, Italo-Albanian, Macedonian, Melkite, Romanian, Russian, Ruthenian, Slovak, Ukrainian, East Syrian, Chaldean, and Syro-Malabar Catholics,

    *plus" Eastern Orthodox: Church of Constantinople, Greek Church of Alexandria, of Antioch, of Jerusalem, Russian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate), Church of Greece, Churches of Georgia, of Serbia, of Romania, of Bulgaria, of Cyprus, of Albania, of Poland, Church of Slovakia and the Czech Lands, Church of Sinai (Jerusalem Patriarchate), (Ecumenical Patriarchate) Church of Crete, of Finland, of Estonia, (Moscow Patriarchate) Church of Japan, of Ukraine, Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia, Church of Ukraine (Kyiv Patriarchate), Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, Macedonian Orthodox Church,

    *plus* the Oriental Orthodox Churches: Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, Armenian Apostolic Orthodox Church, Syriac Orthodox Church, Jacobite Syrian Church, Indian Orthodox Church, Coptic Orthodox Church, Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church,

    *plus* others I may have failed to mention, almost all of them founded 1,000 years earlier than the Reformation, many of them reading the Scriptures in the original languages, many founded by the Apostles themselves---

    claim to take Jn 6 literally..."

    Excuse the catalogue approach. It's not mere pedantry. It's illustrative of the most ancient Christian communities with the most ancient understandings of Scripture, many of whom know Greek, Western Syriac and Aramaic very well, some of whom are not under the direct jurisdiction of Rome OR Constantinople --- who don't understand why the German and English-speaking innovators just don't get it.

    If we're going to talk about the meaning of words, I would personally go back to the people who have the longest continuous lexical familiarity with those words --- as well as being much closer to the cultural contexts.

    You won't find any ancient church which does *not* believe that the elements of the Eucharist, under the appearance of bread and wine, become the true Body and Blood of Christ.

    It's the seminary-scribes of the West, I think, who have substituted spurious innovations for the continuous, lived understanding of the oldest Christian communities on the planet.

    It's probably because of the impoverished concept of "Sola Scriptura" -- a doctrine not found in Scripture, and which turns out to mean "All hail the Magisterium of the Seminary Professors," "All power to the guy who learned Greek yesterday" --- which simply spurns the wisdom of the Church.

  • Cashier, 18, buys custard for little boy who was $2 short...and gets rewarded

    03/29/2015 8:10:35 AM PDT · 19 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to don-o

    Lovely, lovely!

  • Because Mary Said “Yes…” — A Reflection For The Solemnity of the Annunciation of Our Lord

    03/29/2015 8:05:24 AM PDT · 566 of 630
    Mrs. Don-o to mrobisr
    "As you normally do you are trying to deflect from the OP...

    The Original Post (OP) was about Mary's Yes, her consent to become the Mother of our Savior. In no way did I deflect from this. What do you think I'm talking about?? Did you miss the topic sentence?

    "'She' as you put it which means Mary isn’t answering you or anyone else."

    So many people have been answered by Mary that it would break down this server to list them all. People who are utterly *uninterested* in historic evidence on the six inhabited continents, over many centuries and cultures, and given to many people in the form of healing of body and soul, return to Christ, new fervor for His work, the renewal of families, the blessing of a happy death --- obtained from God through the intercession of Mary and the Saints--- will remain closed off from much truth and many blessings. There's no need to keep your fingers in your ears or your hands over your eyes.

    "Show me in the Holy Scripture where any Heavenly Host talks to humans other than God, Jesus, The Holy Spirit, Angels, or Demons. 'She' isn’t any of the above, so she’s not talking to you."

    Where do you get the principle you apparently invoke, that if something didn't happen in Scripture, it could not happen at all? It's like saying nobody was healed of cocaine addiction in Scripture, so it can't happen; or like saying light never comes from an electrical device in Scripture, so electric lights are not possible.

    Old Russian Orthodox joke:

    How many monks does it take the change a light bulb?

    Monk #1: Bulb?

    Monk #2: Change?

    God can do whatever He wants, and through whomever He wants, even now. God did not stop being God at the end of the NT.

    "...the Holy Scripture still remains and it is condemning you."

    Holy Scripture does not condemn me, and I remain peacefully in the Body of Christ, together with Mary and all the saints gone on before me, and all the faithful Christians on earth. You too, if you only knew.

  • Domino's policy changes on deliveries angers residents

    03/29/2015 7:37:09 AM PDT · 6 of 84
    Mrs. Don-o to SeafoodGumbo

    People are angry in the Lower 9th: and that’s another reason not to make nighttime deliveries there. The article doesn’t say so, but I’ll bet it’s because their delivery guys, both black and white, said “We won’t go there.”

  • Cashier, 18, buys custard for little boy who was $2 short...and gets rewarded

    03/29/2015 7:33:37 AM PDT · 4 of 44
    Mrs. Don-o to Wiz-Nerd; don-o
    Kris Kristofferson needs to write a song about this.

    :o)

  • A Catholic School Removes Teacher for Defending Faith

    03/28/2015 6:31:10 PM PDT · 9 of 17
    Mrs. Don-o to nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow
    Here's my letter to Bishop Bootkoski.

    bishop@diometuchen.org

    Dear Bishop Bootkoski,

    Understanding that you are looking for a good pastoral approach in the matter of the Patricia Jannuzzi controversy, I would be honored if you would consider the following points. I am responding to your official statement as found on your diocesan website.

    (1)If you're trying to treat your students, faculty and teachers with respect, why do you fail to even address Patricia Jannuzzi by name?? And why do you fail to quote her actual words, showing where they differ from Catholic teachings? This isn't "respect," it's crushing a person by your punitive firing, and them leaving her nameless and and voiceless.

    (2) You've "never wavered" in teaching Catholic doctrines? Can you show is even one instance in which you have actually, comprehensively taught your flock "our traditional Catholic teachings" on the question of homosexuality?

    (3) That a teacher's comment is "disturbing" may or may not be relevant. One may "disturb" another by telling the truth, or by telling an untruth. Christ said things which were so disturbing that the religious and social hierarchy of His day wanted to kill Him. Would you want to dispute the truth of anything Patricia Jannuzzi said?

    You say she has not upheld the Church's teaching of "acceptance," and yet these are the actual words of the Catechism, para 2357:

    "Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved."

    The Catechism also says that persons with a deep-seated homosexual tendency "must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity" and that "Homosexual persons are called to chastity." If Patricia Jannuzzi's comments were blunt, they were not more blunt than Paragraph 2357 of the Catechism.

    (4) "She has never been terminated"? This is an untruth. She was put on administrative leave (with pay) until August, and informed that she would not be re-hired in September. That means she is terminated as of September.

    (5) There is a difference between accepting "brethren" (ordinary men and women, boys and girls, students who may be struggling with same-sex attraction) and accepting the social and political agenda of LGBT activist groups, the "Gay Lobby."

    As Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Pope Francis (Abp. Bergoglio) called on the priests of his Archdiocese to bring the faithful to an upcoming protest against homosexual "marriage."

    "Let's not be naive, we're not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God," wrote Cardinal Bergoglio in a letter sent to the monasteries of Buenos Aires. "We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."

    Pretty disturbing, isn't it? I'm thinking Bergoglio would be considered unfit to teach in the Catholic schools of the Diocese of Metuchen.

    To the clergy of the parishes, Bergoglio requested that all of them read from the pulpits a declaration defending the true definition and understanding of marriage.

    "The Argentinean people will have to confront, in the coming weeks, a situation whose result could gravely injure the family. We are speaking of a bill regarding marriage between people of the same sex," a bill that calls into question "the identity, and the survival of the family: father, mother, and children."

    It's impossible to miss the parallels between Bergoglio's statement, and Mrs. Jannuzzi's comment on Facebook that the Gay movement threatens to “reengineer Western civ[ilization] into a slow extinction...We need healthy families with a mother and a father for the sake of the children and humanity."

    (6) Patricia Jannuzzi made no "harsh and judgmental" statements toward any individual gay student or any individual whatsoever. She was speaking of the homosexualist movements, ideologies and social-change groups which are even now coercing acceptance of homosexual acts and the relationships predicated upon those acts, by force of law.

    The only report of her speaking to or about an individual, was the following from the New York Daily News. "I left this school after being told in religion class I must live a celibate single life if I had gay ‘feelings,’” wrote Doug Bednarczyk.

    Is this wrong? Isn't this the same choice facing every human being, no matter what their orientation: either chaste celibacy, or marriage as defined by Divine and Natural Law?

    [signed]


    ` By the way, I sent this to Bishop Bootkoski as a paper copy, as well as posted it at the Diocesan Facebook page HERE (LINK).

  • Police: Woman Threw Molotov Cocktail at Anti-Abortion Protestors

    03/28/2015 6:30:10 PM PDT · 36 of 41
    Mrs. Don-o to vladimir998

    A very poor plan. Likely very unwelcome by the prolifers themselves, high risk of harming bystanders, and little if any chance of either remedying the situation immediately at hand, or preventing future assaults against prolifers, who will in any case be framed and blamed as aggressors.

  • A Catholic School Removes Teacher for Defending Faith

    03/28/2015 6:15:30 PM PDT · 8 of 17
    Mrs. Don-o to verga; marshmallow; jsanders2001; Timber Rattler; ohioman
    There's a possibility we can fight this and win. Bishop Bootkoski, who turns like a weathervane in every passing gust, is possibly already beginning to waffle. Give his a piece of your mind at:

    bishop@diometuchen.org

    Also Contact:

    Immaculata High School
    Mrs. Jean Kline, principal:
    jkline@immaculatahighschool.org
    Phone: (908) 722-0200, ext. 110 or 111

    Monsignor Seamus Brennan
    c/o Immaculate Conception Church
    35 Mountain Avenue
    Somerville, New Jersey 08876
    Phone: 908-725-1112