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The big problem with Ohio is the 4 C’s: Cincinnati, Columbus, Canton and Cleveland with Toledo thrown in. All these are basically large ghettos and all had 100 plus vote counts for Dems in 2012. Don’t count you’re eggs (votes) till they are layed (counted). then factor in the voter fraud, remember Cincinnati is where the woman was convicted of voting 6+ times.

got news for you read this from his daughter about the situation.
I found this on the Blaze, in the comments:Garrett Robins “Sorry this is long but applicable here. By SHIREE BUNDY COX: I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the indangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying,” how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?

We need to start making the names and addresses of these NP rangers known. If that fails to put pressure on them then take a chapter from the sons of liberty—let some of these rangers be found in a public place tarred(use anything to adhere the feathers) and feathered. There should be consequences for their actions. Just following orders is not a valid defense.

You are very WRONG many wiccans have fought and died in the military-the VA just recently(a few years ago) approved the pentagram as a religious symbol for headstones. Check out the facts paganism has been around since the dawn of man. The term pagan is Latin for common or country folk.

UPDATE!!!!! while we were in Delta, Utah on our trip we noticed a car with New Hampshire plates. The next morning as we were heading out fossil hunting I met the driver and struck up a conversation. I asked what brought him out to Utah and got a shock—he was with a company called Longshot films and they were making a documentary on WWII vets. He was out doing interviews of Veterans. Well I gave him all my contact info for Mr.Andert and told him the story I posted above. Mr. Andert called and said he had been contacted and had an interview. Sometimes things just come together.

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Thank you for breaking this back into paragraphs, not sure why it grouped everything together when I hit post.

My wife and I just got back from New Mexico,Arizona and Utah.We each have our concealed carry permits issued by Ohio,we were armed on our entire trip.Exceptions being National Parks and White Sands(trinity site). It was great traveling in states that were that open.

I thought travel to North Korea was banned—how the hell did he get there? Not from the US. So why was he not arrested and his passport seized??

we need to bring back tarring and feathering

• “What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.”
— Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356
• “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”
—Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
The founders knew this could happen=research it even they said it was a God given right that when a goverment became tyrantical to take up arms and overthrow it. Lokks like that time it getting closer every day. God save our country—but for me I am like Patrick Henry-give me liberty or give me death!!

• If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual State. In a single State, if the persons entrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair.
— Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28
The founders had it right and the time to follow their advise is drawing near—consider the following quote—
“The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing.”
— Adolph Hitler, Hitler’s Secret Conversations 403 (Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens trans., 1961)

I have a better idea—lets demand the FULL implemention of the civil rights act and full intergration of society. Lets demand that areas in the country where there are virtually no minorities take a number of minorities from these “blue” areas till a full racial balance is achieved across the nation.

early voting=massive vote fraud—stop early voting

I think its time for the red states to secede from this corrupt union and recreate the republic the founders wanted. Either that or start a real third party. This election had to be manipulated to obtain these results—record turnout and obot wins Ohio. We need to stop early voting to easy to flood the ballot box. Oh and I am done with the Republicans.

I call Bull*#@** on these polls i live north of Cincinnati and travel around the state nearly every yard has a Romney/Ryan sign and channel 12 news did a viewer poll and had nearly 4500 responses Romney was around 52% and Obama around 42% undecided around 12%-—People we know that voted for Obama in 2008 now have nothing good to say about him. So I believe the pollsters over sample the dems in Columbus and Cleveland.

Same here in Cincinnati the CFA at tri county mall had traffic backed up kemper road as far as we could see, parking lot full and spilling over to the lowes lot—NO Protestors!!!!

My wife and I live in NW Cincinnati and just completed the CCW classes. We were informed that carrying a loaded gun concealed in a car is legal up till 2012 you had to have your gun in a locked glove box, center console, or in the trunk with ammunition separated. We were told law makers decided this was not logical as the purpose in CCW is immediate protection. You still have to inform a police officer you are armed if you are pulled over.The police trainers that taught our course were very pro 2nd amendment and said that in a crisis situation every second counts when force is needed to stop an attack.

He has tried to cut spending—the unions here are so ingrained and to have all the colleges and other higher learning centers this state is full of educated idiots who believe what the unions spout—the unions scared everyone into voting down prop#2 and now most every city is having to layoff police and firemen-every election school districts have new tax levies on the ballots-where is all the money schools get from the feds, the state lottery and from all the tax levies? it goes to teachers union pay raises.