Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
No, but it needs to be emphasized when those statements that Luther made which the vast majority of Protestants disagree with are brought into view.
Much like the Pope today is roundly criticized by many Catholics when he says stupid stuff.
1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
I have a question. If our resurrected bodies are like the angels, NO gender, how can Mary be a queen?
She will undoubtedly be held in high honor in the new heaven/earth, and I have the ultimate respect for her, but for me the Holy Spirit is my spiritual mother.
Except for Mary, whom the angel acknowledged as “full of Grace.” How could she become so prior to Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, unless, as Catholics hold, she was specially gifted through God’s will to be born without original sin?
Prediction:
There will be lots of comments accusing Catholics of making Mary into God, worshiping Mary, etc.
There will be lots of comments claiming that the title “Mother of God” means that Mary is the mother of the eternal Triune God, and pre-existed the eternal Triune God.
When it is explained for the billionth time that the title “Mother of God” does not mean, and has never meant, anything so moronic, the explanations will be ignored.
There will be NO comments from the usual suspects confronting, point by point by point, the Christological and Trinitarian problems that arise when Mary is denied the title “Mother of God.”
The Roman catholic Mary has come down here and given promises for praying her rosary..
Along with the contradictions of scripture in those promises, she points to her son, Jesus.,
It took the testimony of His Word and the Word that became flesh to show this Mary was a lying prophetess when I tested her words.
But problem is, this lying prophetess points to Jesus in her promise too..
No lie every points to Truth..
And it is a sticky question for Protestants (I was one) because there really isn’t a protestant Jesus although scripture speaks of other jesuses..
The Jesus that Rome worships is the exact same the protestants worship..
What if that is ‘another jesus’ , a substitute one? An in place of one that takes the place of the real Savior?
I can tell you this, Paul didn’t preach December 25, good Friday or easter Sunday..
He preached the gospel with Passover, Lamb and First Fruits..
If the enemy wasn’t a master counterfeiter, we wouldn’t have to be on watch for counterfeits that just look like the real deal..
Maybe the mother church’s Greco roman Latin Mary is indeed a counterfeit for the genuine hebrew mother, and the lying counterfeit just points to her Greco roman Latin counterfeit son..
It can explain the thousands of different versions of truth that is around all of her daughter churches.,
They all start with the false premise that the mother church represents the genuine Messiah of Israel, as opposed to calling her a counterfeit..
And then argue her and her members like she has any standing..
But she does, with protestants.. you see it with their holy sabbath of Sunday.. their holy December 25.. their holy good Friday, holy easter..
None of those are found in scripture... but protestants are a little less likely to see that inconsistency to scripture in their own worship when the mother goes way off the rails in their eyes..
Prophetic that there is a verse describing the ‘mother of harlots’.. means her daughters are not any better !
You can see the circular arguments back and forth...
And those that can recognize babylon, we are called to come out of her..
Praise Yah He has led me away from religion and closer to the genuine..
Genuine Truth that turns all religion and the systems of this world on its head..And causes one to see this world as one big counterfeit after another..
Thanks for your response.
I read it all.
I’m not sure I get your bottom line message (perhaps I am dumb) but appreciate it.
Will be back later to most likely see zilch in that regard.
Many saints are spoken of as experiencing God's grace.
In fact all saints are full of God's grace, having not earned salvation on their own.
Ok, Catholics make Mary into a goddess. How’s that? What Catholics don’t seem to understand is that Spirit filled believers see with opened eyes. Catholics have attributed attributes that only belong to God to Mary and their saints.
Angels can't be multiple places at one time.
Co-redemptrix? co-mediatrix? crucial to our salvation? Christ alone provides this.
Funny...haven't seen any yet.
Wow! Great work in those two posts. The apostasy of the Catholic Church is obvious and pervasive.
Mary was NEVER described as “full of grace”. That phrase does NOT exist in the Greek except for Christ and Stephen.
Where do you get the notion that our risen bodies will have no gender (sex)? Jesus, after the Resurrection, was clearly a man. Mary Magdalene took him for the gardener. The disciples on the way to Emmaus recognized him as a man. (They would never have walked along talking to a strange woman!)
Jesus said that, in heaven, there will be no marrying. It is only in that sense that the risen will be "like the angels."
It’s Saturday night. Just wait until the bars close.
There are absolutely no problems with that if one understands what scripture is saying.
While many Protestants would disagree, I, as a CatholicCatholic would counter that all saints are, by definition, in a state of grace, but that most Christians are not saints (myself included). However, i have hope to be one eventually.
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