Posted on 12/18/2014 5:00:17 PM PST by Salvation
“I don’t mean to be rude or anything, but could you just play the song in the same rhythm I’m planning to sing?”
I met him decades ago before he was well-known and he was an odd little guy, quiet but intense. One of those too-tightly-wrapped people that you just know would be ... colorful if they ever came undone. As we’ve seen, he was. A lot of artists are damaged in some way. Gives them something to write about, sing about, etc. I guess.
I’m listening to an audiobook about Edward Curtis, the photographer who documented American Indian tribes in the early 20th century. He was nuts, too. (I have conflicted relationships with photographers.)
There’s all kinds of “nuts” and some forms are more tolerable than others. It’s the ones who should be labeled “contents under pressure” that make me nervous.
Good point.
The bible says for Catholics to "come out of her, my people".
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
The Catholic laity are some of God's people. I think if the Catholic Church didn't allow certain lay Catholics to learn the truth then God's elect will have the time of their testimony and then the Millennium to bring these lay Catholics to salvation, and many, if not most, of these current Catholics will be saved.
I don't think a funeral is a time to go into a full-blown religious sermon. People are paying their respects to the deceased and a lot of those people will be of a different religion or atheist. You don't fish for souls by throwing an anchor at them.
29 "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
Why do you leave off the verse these verses are based on???
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
You can get rest from no one else...Jesus said, 'come to him'...Not Mary, or your religion...Come to Jesus...
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
You act as tho knowing some scripture as Protestants do is bad...So what does that actually tell you??? That Protestants are interested in what God has to say and Catholics aren't???
Did that verse inspire you??? How are you going to find it again if you don't remember it or at least write down the chapter and verse???
Often times Protestants will use a highlighter and mark out salient verses of scripture in their bibles...Even if they don't remember exactly where a verse is, they can often go to the correct book or chapter and check the marked verses til they get the one they are looking for...
Many of us have wide margin bibles which gives us space to write notes or references to other verses that are relevant...And that's a bad thing???
Instead of criticizing bible reading Protestants you might be better off asking your self, 'why do Protestants have this zeal in their hearts to know the words of God but you don't'!!!
**Often times Protestants will use a highlighter and mark out salient verses of scripture in their bibles**
Catholics do this too. Who would have ever thunk that?
If only you would go thru the same study with a Protestant teacher with actual scriptural proof to back it up...It's a real eye opener...
Then for the love of God, if there is any truth to that, pass on to us just one unwritten tradition that was passed on by the apostles, with proof of course...
Gee, I went through the Book of Revelation twice now. Once teaching it and once in a class — all with Scrptural references. God bless you. And we know that our Scriptural references are correct!
So right!
If we decide to a Bible Study on a Caucus Thread. Revelation might be a good start?
When a Catholic is buried it’s all about sending him off to the Lord, not about his life here. Family will get up after the service is over and before we leave the church for that. Church services are always about God in a Catholic church, not about self.
findingthetreasure.org has Bible studies on line by a Catholic nun. You can post those as a class. It is sound only, but she is the teacher who teaches me once a week. She founded The Missionaries of the Heart of Jesus. It is their website.
“..one unwritten tradition that was passed on...”
We have been explaining this over and over to deaf ears. The tradition of the Eucharist is both written and handed on. In John 6:53 the command is written, however - not all the liturgical instructions as to how to do this (John6:53) sacrament are written in the bible, that is the part that is handed on.
The Didache contains the instructions as to how to accomplish Jesus’ commands in John 6 - that is some of the proof, of course. Most important is the unbroken proof of the mass being celebrated since the very beginning of Christianity, without ceasing. The early Christians were persecuted by Rome for it, as well. See St. Ignatius of Antioch’s very early writings that have been preserved since antiquity. He died in 110; he was martyred in Rome, and he wrote explicity about Christ’s real presence in the Eucharist, proof that the early Christians had the mass from the beginning.
The sacraments are the handed on traditions, and they are written about in scripture. The apostles knew that the Christians were carrying out the sacraments at the same time as reading about them, and their catachumens would have been doing both and fully understood both. The early Christians began as a Jewish sect, and the Jews ALWAYS had an oral as well as a written tradition. The ones who became Christian continued this practice when they became Christian. This is how religion was practiced - first as oral tradition and then once written down - both. The act of writing did not cause the oral traditions/rituals to cease.
The bible does not say that it is itself the only source of truth.
Thanks, I’ll check it out.
***Many of us have wide margin bibles which gives us space to write notes or references to other verses that are relevant...And that’s a bad thing???***
You seem to be attributing some things to me which I never addressed AT ALL in my post, and if you knew me, you’d realize that I never would mention those things. Highlighting and writing in your Bible do not bother me in any fashion. If you have read through any of my other posts on this thread, you would learn that I did many years of Bible study with a large international non-denominational group. I learned very quickly the methods you refer to. I enjoyed greatly my time doing this, and yearn to find a new group in my new location.
I have no problem with learning, reading, and studying the Bible. I do have trouble memorizing chapters and verses, but I was trying to explain, apparently poorly, that when something is put to music, I remember it more easily. So forgive me if I do not recall the chapter and verses of a particular psalm. I remember many of words, and it helps me focus back on God in my life. I thought that is the larger point.
I don’t have a problem with Protestants, but many on FR have a problem with me and other Catholics. We may have different ways of doing things, but I think its okay to be a little different. I think God appreciates the different ways we go about honoring Him. I don’t think I’m better than you. I think we are all children of God, on our earthly journey to our meet our Maker.
I have many friends who are Protestant. I think we learn well from each other. I appreciate the zeal of Protestants for the Word, but wonder why they don’t think Catholics have any zeal for it. I think that as a group, Protestants may be better at certain things because I’m guessing they’ve been trained that way. However, I think Catholics also have things about them that are good and useful. I would like to try to focus on the things that help us help each other in our journeys.
May God richly bless you and yours, especially at this season of Christmas!
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