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For Advent: Why Don’t Catholics Read the Bible? (They Do!)
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Posted on 12/18/2014 5:00:17 PM PST by Salvation

Why Don’t Catholics Read the Bible?

by Dwight Longenecker

The independent Evangelical church I went to as a boy gave me a fantastic amount of Bible knowledge. There were Bible drills in Sunday School classes, Bible memory contests and Bible quizzes, not to mention a complete grounding in all the Bible stories—illustrated with those wonderful flannelgraph figures. As I got older I listened to long Bible sermons, went to home Bible studies, youth Bible camps and a Bible holiday club. I ended up going to a Christian University where Bible study was part of our everyday schedule.

Our Christian home wasn’t particularly anti-Catholic, but some of our preachers were, and the general impression I got was that Catholics not only didn’t read the Bible, but that they weren’t allowed to. They didn’t go to church with their big black Bibles under their arm. They didn’t have long Bible sermons or home study groups or youth Bible camps. How could Catholics believe the Bible if they didn’t read it and study it like we did?

Its true that many Evangelicals know their Bible upside down and backwards, and compared to them Catholics sometimes seem ignorant of the Bible. But that's only an appearance.

The truth is simply that Catholics and Evangelicals use the Bible in different ways and therefore have different kinds of Bible knowledge. Evangelicals use the Bible as a source book for doctrine and right moral teaching, and that's good. 2 Timothy 3.16 says the Scriptures are 'useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.' Evangelicals also use the Bible for personal devotions and inspiration. This too is Biblical. Psalm 119.27 says, 'Let me understand the teaching of your precepts; then will I meditate on your wonders.'

Ordinary Catholics might not be so adept at quoting chapter and verse, but they do know and use Scripture regularly. Its just that they use it in a different way. For a Catholic, Scripture is not so much a book to be studied as a book to worship with. (Ps. 119.7) For Catholics the Bible is almost always used in the context of worship. Did you know that a survey was done to check the amount of Scripture used in the Catholic Mass? The Catholic service was almost 30% Scripture. When the same writer checked his local Bible-based Evangelical church he was surprised to find the total amount of Scripture read took just 3% of the service.

When Catholics go to mass they hear a reading from the Old Testament, they say or sing one of the Psalms, then they listen to a reading from the epistles, then a gospel reading. The whole structure fits together so the communion service if focused on Christ in the gospels. Catholics follow a three year cycle of Scripture reading so a Catholic who goes to church faithfully will--over the three years--hear almost all of the Bible read. Furthermore, the responses, and the words of the communion service are almost all from Scripture. So a church-going Catholic does know and use Scripture--its just that he uses it primarily for meditation and worship (Ps.119.48)--not for personal information and instruction.

And when you think about it, isn't this actually the way Scripture is meant to be used? The Jews recite the Old Testament law in their worship daily. The psalms were the hymn book of the Jews. In the New Testament church they read the letters of the apostles, recited the psalms and used portions of Scripture to praise and worship God just as Catholics do today.(Eph.5.19) We know from the records of the early church that Scripture was used primarily for worship, and only secondarily for study.

Of course, like Evangelicals, Catholics also use the Scripture to determine doctrine and moral principles--its just that the Catholic lay person or pastor doesn't do so on his own. As Paul gave Timothy the apostolic authority to 'rightly divide the word of truth' (2 Timothy 2.15), so Catholics believe their bishops have inherited the authority of the apostles to teach doctrinal and moral truth faithfully. They base this on Paul’s clear instructions to Timothy, ‘the things you have heard me say …entrust to reliable men so that they man in turn teach others.’ (2 Timothy 2.1-2) Therefore, it is the bishops—living, praying and working in a direct line from the apostles-- who use the Bible to determine Christian doctrine and moral principles. That Catholic doctrine and moral teaching is biblically-based is easy to see. Try reading any official Catholic teaching documents and you will find they are--and always have been--permeated and upheld with Scripture.

Nevertheless, memories are long. Some extreme Protestants like to say that the Catholic church not only forbade people to read the Bible, but they deliberately kept the Bible in Latin, chained it up in churches and even went so far as to burn popular translations of the Bible. Its true Bibles were chained in churches. Before the days of printing presses books were precious items. They were chained for security reasons—the way a phone book is secured in a phone booth—to make it available to everyone. The Catholic Church allowed translations into the vernacular from the beginning. The earliest English version of the Bible for instance, is a paraphrase version of Genesis dating from the year 670. In a few places the authorities did burn some translations of the Bible which were deliberately faulty or which carried heretical notes, but this was an attempt to preserve the purity of the scriptures, not to keep it from God’s people. Remembering that in the Middle Ages most people were illiterate, the pastors and teachers of the Catholic Church instructed the people about the biblical stories in many creative and dramatic ways—not unlike my Sunday School teacher’s use of the flannelgraph.

But in saying all this, ordinary modern Catholics could learn a few lessons from Evangelicals about Bible knowledge. We Catholics need more Bible scholars amongst our pastors. We need more resources for personal Bible reading. We need to understand the Scriptures better to see how our faith is rooted and grounded in the Bible. Our own official teachings encourage us to read, study and learn the Scriptures. Dei Verbum--a document about the God's Word from Second Vatican Council says, "...all clergy should remain in close contact with the Scriptures by means of reading and accurate study of the text...similarly the Council earnestly and expressly calls upon all the faithful...to acquire by frequent reading of holy Scripture the excellent knowledge of Jesus Christ (Phil 3.8) for as St.Jerome said, "Ignorance of the Scriptures is indeed ignorance of Christ."'

Ecumenism is a two way street. If we have lessons to learn from Evangelicals, many Evangelicals could learn fresh ways of using the Scriptures from us too. Singing the psalms in worship is something Catholics can share with Evangelicals, using a lectionary helps pastors choose Biblical readings which harmonise Old Testament and New Testament, taking the congregation on a logical process through each year of worship. Finally, using chosen readings from the Old Testament, the epistles and then the gospels helps focus the worship on Jesus Christ. Using the Scriptures like this is a practical way for the whole word of God in Scripture to point to the Word of God in the flesh-- our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Catholics and the Bible

  • The Catholic Church finally agreed on which writings should go into the Bible at the Council of Rome in 382 AD during the time of Pope Damasus.
  • Damasus encouraged St Jerome to translate the Scriptures into Latin since Latin was the common language of all educated people.
  • In the mid-1400s the Bible started to be translated into European languages.
  • Some Reformers published Bibles with bits missing, faulty translation work and subversive notes.
  • The authorities tried to regulate which Bibles were acceptable in order to control erroneous teaching.
  • Throughout the years the Catholic Church encouraged Bible reading, but kept control of the interpretation of the Bible as part of her inspired authority to teach the truth and preserve the unity of the church.
  • Pope Leo XIII published a letter in 1893 encouraging Bible study.
  • Pius XII in 1943 also encouraged the faithful to study and love the Bible.
  • The second Vatican Council in the 1960s encouraged all the clergy and people to study the Bible faithfully.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: bible; catholic
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To: RegulatorCountry

“I don’t mean to be rude or anything, but could you just play the song in the same rhythm I’m planning to sing?”


181 posted on 12/20/2014 6:14:51 AM PST by Tax-chick (Remember Malmedy!)
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To: Tax-chick

I met him decades ago before he was well-known and he was an odd little guy, quiet but intense. One of those too-tightly-wrapped people that you just know would be ... colorful if they ever came undone. As we’ve seen, he was. A lot of artists are damaged in some way. Gives them something to write about, sing about, etc. I guess.


182 posted on 12/20/2014 6:17:33 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I’m listening to an audiobook about Edward Curtis, the photographer who documented American Indian tribes in the early 20th century. He was nuts, too. (I have conflicted relationships with photographers.)


183 posted on 12/20/2014 6:26:36 AM PST by Tax-chick (Remember Malmedy!)
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To: Tax-chick

There’s all kinds of “nuts” and some forms are more tolerable than others. It’s the ones who should be labeled “contents under pressure” that make me nervous.


184 posted on 12/20/2014 6:37:35 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Good point.


185 posted on 12/20/2014 6:57:05 AM PST by Tax-chick (Remember Malmedy!)
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To: allendale
However with the exception of a few Protestant sects and almost no Evangelicals, most detractict Protestants do not think Catholics can be saved.

The bible says for Catholics to "come out of her, my people".

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

The Catholic laity are some of God's people. I think if the Catholic Church didn't allow certain lay Catholics to learn the truth then God's elect will have the time of their testimony and then the Millennium to bring these lay Catholics to salvation, and many, if not most, of these current Catholics will be saved.

186 posted on 12/20/2014 7:12:32 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: tioga
I have been to protestant funeral services that barely mentioned God, let alone scripture. Yet, they criticize Catholics like this? Laughable.

I don't think a funeral is a time to go into a full-blown religious sermon. People are paying their respects to the deceased and a lot of those people will be of a different religion or atheist. You don't fish for souls by throwing an anchor at them.

187 posted on 12/20/2014 7:19:27 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: cloudmountain
One of my favorite readings is from Matthew 11:29-30

29 "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."

Why do you leave off the verse these verses are based on???

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

You can get rest from no one else...Jesus said, 'come to him'...Not Mary, or your religion...Come to Jesus...

Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

188 posted on 12/20/2014 9:13:43 AM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: FamiliarFace
Hmmm, I find myself singing the psalm that I heard on Sunday for the rest of the week. So while I may not know which chapter and verse I am singing, I remember the words. I don’t guess that matters to Protestants though, because I don’t remember which psalm it is.

You act as tho knowing some scripture as Protestants do is bad...So what does that actually tell you??? That Protestants are interested in what God has to say and Catholics aren't???

Did that verse inspire you??? How are you going to find it again if you don't remember it or at least write down the chapter and verse???

Often times Protestants will use a highlighter and mark out salient verses of scripture in their bibles...Even if they don't remember exactly where a verse is, they can often go to the correct book or chapter and check the marked verses til they get the one they are looking for...

Many of us have wide margin bibles which gives us space to write notes or references to other verses that are relevant...And that's a bad thing???

Instead of criticizing bible reading Protestants you might be better off asking your self, 'why do Protestants have this zeal in their hearts to know the words of God but you don't'!!!

189 posted on 12/20/2014 9:34:22 AM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: FamiliarFace; Iscool

**Often times Protestants will use a highlighter and mark out salient verses of scripture in their bibles**

Catholics do this too. Who would have ever thunk that?


190 posted on 12/20/2014 9:39:08 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: defconw
I have gone through Revelation with a priest and a group of others, it was awesome.

If only you would go thru the same study with a Protestant teacher with actual scriptural proof to back it up...It's a real eye opener...

191 posted on 12/20/2014 9:59:04 AM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: stonehouse01
Why don’t protestants? Sola scriptura is NOT in the bible. The instruction to follow traditions taht are handed on IS in the bible, not the written word alone. All scripture is profitable, but not ONLY scripture is profitable.

Then for the love of God, if there is any truth to that, pass on to us just one unwritten tradition that was passed on by the apostles, with proof of course...

192 posted on 12/20/2014 10:03:36 AM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: defconw

Gee, I went through the Book of Revelation twice now. Once teaching it and once in a class — all with Scrptural references. God bless you. And we know that our Scriptural references are correct!


193 posted on 12/20/2014 10:04:01 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: stonehouse01

So right!


194 posted on 12/20/2014 10:05:33 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

If we decide to a Bible Study on a Caucus Thread. Revelation might be a good start?


195 posted on 12/20/2014 11:15:34 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

When a Catholic is buried it’s all about sending him off to the Lord, not about his life here. Family will get up after the service is over and before we leave the church for that. Church services are always about God in a Catholic church, not about self.


196 posted on 12/20/2014 11:20:31 AM PST by tioga
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To: defconw

findingthetreasure.org has Bible studies on line by a Catholic nun. You can post those as a class. It is sound only, but she is the teacher who teaches me once a week. She founded The Missionaries of the Heart of Jesus. It is their website.


197 posted on 12/20/2014 11:23:47 AM PST by tioga
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To: Iscool

“..one unwritten tradition that was passed on...”

We have been explaining this over and over to deaf ears. The tradition of the Eucharist is both written and handed on. In John 6:53 the command is written, however - not all the liturgical instructions as to how to do this (John6:53) sacrament are written in the bible, that is the part that is handed on.

The Didache contains the instructions as to how to accomplish Jesus’ commands in John 6 - that is some of the proof, of course. Most important is the unbroken proof of the mass being celebrated since the very beginning of Christianity, without ceasing. The early Christians were persecuted by Rome for it, as well. See St. Ignatius of Antioch’s very early writings that have been preserved since antiquity. He died in 110; he was martyred in Rome, and he wrote explicity about Christ’s real presence in the Eucharist, proof that the early Christians had the mass from the beginning.

The sacraments are the handed on traditions, and they are written about in scripture. The apostles knew that the Christians were carrying out the sacraments at the same time as reading about them, and their catachumens would have been doing both and fully understood both. The early Christians began as a Jewish sect, and the Jews ALWAYS had an oral as well as a written tradition. The ones who became Christian continued this practice when they became Christian. This is how religion was practiced - first as oral tradition and then once written down - both. The act of writing did not cause the oral traditions/rituals to cease.

The bible does not say that it is itself the only source of truth.


198 posted on 12/20/2014 12:20:55 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: tioga

Thanks, I’ll check it out.


199 posted on 12/20/2014 1:05:27 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Iscool

***Many of us have wide margin bibles which gives us space to write notes or references to other verses that are relevant...And that’s a bad thing???***

You seem to be attributing some things to me which I never addressed AT ALL in my post, and if you knew me, you’d realize that I never would mention those things. Highlighting and writing in your Bible do not bother me in any fashion. If you have read through any of my other posts on this thread, you would learn that I did many years of Bible study with a large international non-denominational group. I learned very quickly the methods you refer to. I enjoyed greatly my time doing this, and yearn to find a new group in my new location.

I have no problem with learning, reading, and studying the Bible. I do have trouble memorizing chapters and verses, but I was trying to explain, apparently poorly, that when something is put to music, I remember it more easily. So forgive me if I do not recall the chapter and verses of a particular psalm. I remember many of words, and it helps me focus back on God in my life. I thought that is the larger point.

I don’t have a problem with Protestants, but many on FR have a problem with me and other Catholics. We may have different ways of doing things, but I think its okay to be a little different. I think God appreciates the different ways we go about honoring Him. I don’t think I’m better than you. I think we are all children of God, on our earthly journey to our meet our Maker.

I have many friends who are Protestant. I think we learn well from each other. I appreciate the zeal of Protestants for the Word, but wonder why they don’t think Catholics have any zeal for it. I think that as a group, Protestants may be better at certain things because I’m guessing they’ve been trained that way. However, I think Catholics also have things about them that are good and useful. I would like to try to focus on the things that help us help each other in our journeys.

May God richly bless you and yours, especially at this season of Christmas!


200 posted on 12/20/2014 1:44:55 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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