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To: Iscool

“..one unwritten tradition that was passed on...”

We have been explaining this over and over to deaf ears. The tradition of the Eucharist is both written and handed on. In John 6:53 the command is written, however - not all the liturgical instructions as to how to do this (John6:53) sacrament are written in the bible, that is the part that is handed on.

The Didache contains the instructions as to how to accomplish Jesus’ commands in John 6 - that is some of the proof, of course. Most important is the unbroken proof of the mass being celebrated since the very beginning of Christianity, without ceasing. The early Christians were persecuted by Rome for it, as well. See St. Ignatius of Antioch’s very early writings that have been preserved since antiquity. He died in 110; he was martyred in Rome, and he wrote explicity about Christ’s real presence in the Eucharist, proof that the early Christians had the mass from the beginning.

The sacraments are the handed on traditions, and they are written about in scripture. The apostles knew that the Christians were carrying out the sacraments at the same time as reading about them, and their catachumens would have been doing both and fully understood both. The early Christians began as a Jewish sect, and the Jews ALWAYS had an oral as well as a written tradition. The ones who became Christian continued this practice when they became Christian. This is how religion was practiced - first as oral tradition and then once written down - both. The act of writing did not cause the oral traditions/rituals to cease.

The bible does not say that it is itself the only source of truth.


198 posted on 12/20/2014 12:20:55 PM PST by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01
We have been explaining this over and over to deaf ears. The tradition of the Eucharist is both written and handed on. In John 6:53 the command is written, however - not all the liturgical instructions as to how to do this (John6:53) sacrament are written in the bible, that is the part that is handed on.

Not all are written in the bible???NONE OF THEM ARE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE...

The Didache contains the instructions as to how to accomplish Jesus’ commands in John 6 - that is some of the proof, of course.

No mention of bowing down to idols in the Didache...

3. Thou, Lord Almighty, didst create all things for thy Name's sake, and didst give food and drink to men for their enjoyment, that they might give thanks to thee, but us hast thou blessed with spiritual food and drink and eternal light through thy Child.

The Didache has your Eucharist as 'spiritual food'...Funny that, eh???

6. Of whatsoever thou hast gained by thy hands thou shalt give a ransom for thy sins.

So we have some selling of indulgences in the Didache...

4. Let every Apostle who comes to you be received as the Lord,
5. But let him not stay more than one day, or if need be a second as well; but if he stay three days, he is a false prophet.
6. And when an Apostle goes forth let him accept nothing but bread till he reach his night's lodging; but if he ask for money, he is a false prophet.

But yet your apostles live a life of opulence...

7. Do not test or examine any prophet who is speaking in a spirit, "for every sin shall be forgiven, but this sin shall not be forgiven."
8. But not everyone who speaks in a spirit is a prophet, except he have the behaviour of the Lord. From his behaviour, then, the false prophet and the true prophet shall be known.

Written like a true Catholic...However God says:

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Well, well, well....Your Didache contradicts God as much as your religion does...

1. Appoint therefore for yourselves bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord, meek men, and not lovers of money, and truthful and approved, for they also minister to you the ministry of the prophets and teachers.

The congregation choses the bishops...NOT a pope...

I wouldn't give you two cents for your Didache...It contracts scripture and even contradicts itself...

So all you proved is absolutely nothing...You have nothing that you can show was handed down orally from any apostle...

202 posted on 12/20/2014 8:01:42 PM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: stonehouse01
In John 6:53 the command is written, however

It is too bad that Rome wants to STOP on a certain verse; and hang it's collective hats thereon:

 

53 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.

55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.

56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.

57 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.

58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.

59 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.

60 These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum.

61 Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it?

62 But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you?

63 If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

64 It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life.

203 posted on 12/21/2014 3:38:36 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stonehouse01
The bible does not say that it is itself the only source of truth.

The Bible DOES give warning to all:


1 Corinthians 4:6

Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit,
so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written."
Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

204 posted on 12/21/2014 3:41:13 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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