Posted on 12/11/2014 2:01:01 PM PST by NYer
I, sir, do not. You accuse your brother falsely.
I’m going to let you and your promotion of iniquity go to your own devices right now, as you request.
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I do not promote iniquity. I promote the Ten Commandments and the sacrifice on the cross. Good evening.
But, but, but... All of that has been FLUSHED, Remember?
And no one here is claiming works are salvation. That is not what they are for. But if you love YHWH you will keep His commandments, and His commandments are not grievous (Nor have they ever been).
Bob, My argument here with you is over for now. Darkness is here. The Sabbath is entered... I will see you on the other side.
Shabbat Shalom.
Indeed. Now you have to take the next step and determine what Commandments were written on tablets of stone - Deut. 10-1-4, written with the "finger of God" - EX 31:18, placed in the ark Deut. 10:5 and points out sin 1 Jn 3:4. Then you will know what Law lasts forever Ps. 111:7,8.
Shabbat Shalom, my brother.
I applaud you both.
You have/had a heated/intense debate, and yet still respect one another.
Jimmy, check this position out by Johnathan Cahn... It has great insight!!
http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2014/12/messiah-and-christmas-insight.html
Thanks for posting this. It is very insightful.
Then John must not have known what he was talking about when he said that sin was transgression of the Torah... And sin, by definition, will have no real meaning... The ten were shouted down, the rest were given through Moses, with the ten reiterated. the books of the law are replete with 'And YHWH spake to Moses saying:' Every bit of Torah is direct from YHWH through Moses, and YHWH cautions that not one thing can be added to, or taken away from what he specified... FOREVER.
' Every bit of Torah is direct from YHWH through Moses, and YHWH cautions that not one thing can be added to, or taken away from what he specified... FOREVER.
Not one thing, eh? How often do you do your sacrifices? Are they in accordance to the Torah? Do you have a genuine Levitical priesthood priest to perform? Are all five offerings made? Is your temple up to spec?
Where do you get this from?
From the Sinai narrative... Start around Exo 19:10 for context... Exo 20 starts with 'And Elohiym spake all these words, saying:'... pretty well through Exo 20...
No, no, no. Tell me where it says God shouted. Chapter and verse.
Hope you had a great weekend : )
Not one thing, eh? How often do you do your sacrifices? Are they in accordance to the Torah? Do you have a genuine Levitical priesthood priest to perform? Are all five offerings made? Is your temple up to spec?
Sacrifice can't be done. Torah specifies sacrifice can only be made on Moriah, at the Temple, on the Altar, which is not presently there... Funny that though, because Ezekiel says all that will come again, with the prince (Messiah) officiating... Likewise, Paul still participated in sacrifice, long after Yeshua arose. I know that is uncomfortable to Christian ears, even mine, but there it is, right in Ezekiel... Literally.
I did.
Oh yes, the Ezekiel prophecy. That ones a head banger in trying to figure out. Whether it’s literal, futurist or even allegorical. Backing up and taking Ezekiel as a whole, it appears that this one was conditional on the peoples spiritual condition and obedience. God left this one unfulfilled because of the failure of man. Once again.
You gave me a chapter and exact verse with the words “ten commandments were shouted down”? I don’t think so.
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