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My Plea “I’m a Divorced and Remarried Mother. Please, Don’t Change Church Practice.”
First Things ^ | November 3, 2014 | Luma Simms

Posted on 11/04/2014 10:45:38 AM PST by sitetest

The day my soul became Catholic was the day I found out that as a divorced and remarried woman I could not receive Communion. Tears of sorrow and joy flowed. Sorrow because I had by then grasped the truth of transubstantiation, only to find I couldn’t consume, and joy because at last we found the ground of real authority—his Church, the one he founded, the one tasked to keep all he taught her Apostles.

I came to Catholicism from Calvinism. That’s a tough row to hoe if there ever was one. It was that prescient and beautiful encyclical Humanae Vitae which softened my heart to the Catholic Church. After that, I couldn’t get enough. I wanted to hear what the Church believed in her own words. And so I kept reading—Theology of the Body, Familiaris Consortio, Mulieris Dignitatem, and Church documents significant to those of us coming from the Reformed tradition.

Because I had been divorced, and because another family member recently left his marriage after forty-three years, our children had many doubts and questions about marriage. One day around the dinner table one of the kids voiced their anxiety, stating in our presence that “you never know” if both mom and dad will be there for you as you grow up.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: divorce; doctrine; marriage; remarriage
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Not everyone thinks the Wally and Franky show is such a great idea, even folks with skin in the game.
1 posted on 11/04/2014 10:45:38 AM PST by sitetest
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To: narses; ebb tide

Ping to an interesting piece in First Things.

If this was previously posted, my apologies, but I searched and didn’t find it.


2 posted on 11/04/2014 10:46:40 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
I'm in the same boat, and I feel the same way.

Just because you failed to live up to a standard doesn't mean there's something wrong with the standard.

3 posted on 11/04/2014 10:50:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: sitetest; Mrs. Don-o; NKP_Vet; Arthur McGowan

Ping.


4 posted on 11/04/2014 10:50:50 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

I wanted to hear what the Church believed in her own words.


Ask them if Mary ever had sex with Joseph. And ask them if Mary ever sinned.

You’ll have to get it in their own words. I don’t want to ruin the surprise.


5 posted on 11/04/2014 10:51:06 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: sitetest
""I came to Catholicism from Calvinism."

And, obviously understood neither. But, even that is God's management. We are more than happy to hand her over to you folks...keeps her off the streets.

6 posted on 11/04/2014 10:54:08 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: cuban leaf

Why would a church exclude someone when Jesus Himself loved all and came to save us all, regardless of our sin? Do some priests excuse themselves from communion if they have sinned?


7 posted on 11/04/2014 10:58:19 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: sitetest

You should have caucused this so that the adults can have a rational discussion. I’m in RCIA now, and it’s good to be coming home. I look forward to a rational discussion about this, if the trolls can be kept at bay.


8 posted on 11/04/2014 11:01:25 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

maybe on day you’ll read and understand Paul and the Epistles.....


9 posted on 11/04/2014 11:04:13 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Don’t be ridiculous....no Catholic Priest has ever sinned. /s


10 posted on 11/04/2014 11:04:57 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: sitetest

It’s not what’s in a building it’s what’s in the heart, GOD see’s the heart!


11 posted on 11/04/2014 11:06:03 AM PST by Dusty Road (")
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To: Resolute Conservative

The funny thing about Communion is that Jesus’ instructions were pretty clear and simple. My wife and I partake at home. It’s a very simple kinetic symbol of the foundational support of all of Christianity.

And ANY Christian, after examining himself, can partake.

ALL churches tend to add rules that are not actually in the bible. We all need to be on our guard to root it out when we see it.


12 posted on 11/04/2014 11:06:25 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: goodwithagun
Dear goodwithagun,

I thought about that, but because of the mention of Calvinism in the article, I figured it violated caucus rules. I dislike partially eliding quotes, as it sorta defeats the purpose of quoting.

I'd hoped that the others wouldn't be interested in internal Catholic theological issues, but I was foolish.

It's wonderful to hear that you're in RCIA. My son's girlfriend is, too.


sitetest

13 posted on 11/04/2014 11:07:01 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
The day my soul became Catholic was the day I found out that as a divorced and remarried woman I could not receive Communion.

My divorced parents overcame this by making a "donation" to their church before marrying each other.

14 posted on 11/04/2014 11:07:56 AM PST by gdani (Ebola has exposed the U.S. as fearful, easy-to-manipulate weaklings)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Dear E. Pluribus Unum,

That is the road to Heaven. It starts with honestly acknowledging where we fall short.

Conversely, broad is the way...


sitetest

15 posted on 11/04/2014 11:08:59 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: gdani
Dear gdani,

Perhaps you could elaborate.


sitetest

16 posted on 11/04/2014 11:10:03 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Dutchboy88
 
""I came to Catholicism from Calvinism."

And, obviously understood neither. But, even that is God's management. We are more than happy to hand her over to you folks...keeps her off the streets.

Let me know if she ever gets to Christianity.

17 posted on 11/04/2014 11:10:38 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: sitetest

There was a recent post that mentioned Catholicism, but was allowed to be caucused. The reason is in post 2: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3221748/posts


18 posted on 11/04/2014 11:11:37 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun; Religion Moderator
Dear goodwithagun,

Good catch.

I guess it's too late, RM, to rid this thread of the various vultures and make it Catholic Caucus Only?


sitetest

19 posted on 11/04/2014 11:13:16 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: cuban leaf

“I wanted to hear what the Church believed in her own words”

The official position of the Catholic Church is contained in the doctrine of the Church, not what Francis and his merry band of modernists want would like for it to say. Francis attacking Catholic doctrine is attacking Christ.


20 posted on 11/04/2014 11:14:18 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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