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Posted on 09/11/2014 11:19:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.
But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:
"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.
As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...
For God so loved the world that He did not send a committee, even when it's renamed as *infallible magisterium*.
Faith in Christ is faith in Christ. The body of Christ is not Christ Himself.
The church, the body of Christ, did not die for me. Jesus did.
Peter said in Acts 4:12 that there is no other name to be named by which men must be saved. It's through Christ, not the church.
You can trust religion if you want.
I'll trust Christ, who loved me enough to die for me and in my place.
Ephesians 1:3-14 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.
In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.
In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will, so that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Catholics tell non-Catholics that all the time.
Matter of fact, it's in the Catholic church's own catechism.
So way are non-Catholics condemned for something Catholics do and their official church teaching teaches?
The Catholic hypocrisy abounds.
Children who reject their Mother.
“As for me and my house, we shall serve The Lord!”
You would make a good Catholic. The last thing the Priest says when the Mass is ending is “Go in peace to love and serve the Lord” :-)
Trusting Calvin is not the same as trusting Christ. Trusting in one's ability to authoritatively interpret scripture is not trusting in Christ. It's a delusion. Nietzsche's will to power, protestant style.
What’s Calvin got to do with this all?
Why are you changing the subject and dragging him into it?
“Catholics tell non-Catholics that all the time”.
You’re wrong. Liberals Catholics that don’t live the faith tell others nothing.
Conservative Catholics like me tell the truth.
FOTFLOL!!!!!
LOL.
A lot.
Why are you changing the subject and dragging him into it?
I'm not. It actually goes to the heart of the matter. Protestants do not possess the pure faith they think they do. If you were to trace the genealogy of a protestant confession (which includes any iteration of "just me and Jesus" as expressed by a protestant) you'll always arrive at its genesis. Whether its Luther, Calvin, Zwingli or whomever. To Jesus, through the Reformers.
Especially lapsed Catholics, they know the truth. And the truth is the Catholic Church.
Do not pretend to speak for this Protestant. I go directly to Jesus not through anyone else. Frankly, I do not think of those people. Why should I when I have a direct line?
To Jesus through some dead European white guy.
No. I have the direct line. Me and every other Catholic on the planet. It's called the Eucharist, "This is My body." The faith to believe in Jesus' words is orders of magnitude beyond anything a protestant can muster up when they play Wheel of Fortune with Sacred Scripture. "Let's spin the wheel and see what we can make up today that'll make me feel better about myself."
Well, that’s wrong. I never heard of some of those reformers when I got saved so they have nothing to do with it.
My devotion is to Jesus, not to any other man.
It is readily apparent that that concept is simply beyond the comprehension of any Catholic, being raised as they are to trust in and follow priests, bishops, other leaders within the church, and of course, the pope.
While Catholics don’t seem to be able to understand it, not everyone else thinks like they do because not everyone has been indoctrinated like Catholics have been raised.
Nobody needs to go to Jesus through ANYONE.
Jesus is accessible to all people all the time.
There’s no mediator people need to get to Jesus. HE is the mediator Himself between man and God.
Yes, we have a direct line to Jesus.
If you're devoted to Jesus then convert to His Church and eat His flesh and drink His blood as he commanded you to do.
While Catholics don’t seem to be able to understand it, not everyone else thinks like they do because not everyone has been indoctrinated like Catholics have been raised.
And here it is. The radical individualism so prevalent in protestant thought. Religious and spiritual predisposition conflated with secular political ideology.
I don't pray through any of those fellows.
You go on to say it's the Eucharist. I marvel at that. Wasn't what I expected to see.
At that point, I was comparing how "dead" Luther is to how "dead" Mary is. I think they're pretty much the same kind of "dead." But I'm not their judge. I don't bet but I guess they have met.
Don't bother with a transubstantiation argument. That's long settled here. That dog don't hunt.
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True.
And Jesus did not need to come to us through ANYONE either.
But Jesus DID choose (in His magnificent, Holy Will) to come to us through someone -- one person -- Mary.
Why do you think God chose to come to us through one solitary person, Mary, when He obviously could have come here to us without coming through anyone at all?
And God could easily have informed Mary directly of His Holy Plans, but He chose instead to give her His message through another created being (the angel Gabriel). And Mary gave her message of "be it done to me..." back to God (who, of course, knew it already) through that same created being, Gabriel. Why did God choose to use an intermediary / go-between for those tasks when He could easily have just done all of them Himself?
And God could have written every single word in the Bible directly Himself (or imparted them to us in some other way of His choosing), but instead, He chose to use human intermediaries to write every single word in every single "book" of the Bible. Why did God choose to use intermediaries to write every single word in the Bible, even though He could easily have done all of that writing or imparting Himself without using a single intermediary?
Do you see a pattern? God LOVES to use His created beings to act as His intermediaries, and has done so over, and over, and over again, throughout human history, as copiously attested to and recorded in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. In that way, He can give His Holy Blessings to both the "end user" and the "middle man" at the same time, thereby multiplying His Blessings simultaneously, which God obviously loves to do.
This "go-between action" does not (and cannot) detract a single photon from God's Glory. (It is not possible for human beings to detract anything from the Glory of God.) And by God using a go-between, it does not reduce the efficacy of the Blessings of God one tiny bit. Do you think God cannot do just as much powerful good while at the very same time making use of the modest efforts of a cooperative go-between created being? (Is anything too hard for God?)
God loves to use small, weak specimens of His creation to do wonderful, powerful things with His help and enabling power. If God offers us two tools to use to make petitions and requests to Him (one being to approach God directly, and the other being to approach God indirectly, through a sympathetic intecessor, is it smarter to use just one or the other of those two tools God gives us, or to make full, prudent use of both of those tools?
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