Posted on 08/31/2014 6:59:37 PM PDT by ebb tide
But I thought you were reprimanding us for discussing such idiotic things when Christians were being killed!
Or does it matter who is doing the discussing?
I guess you didn’t take the time to read the immediately following post; Post 9.
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OK, I got your mandatory smart ass comment. Now, how about honest answers to my questions. Let me also add another: sedevacantist?
And another: Follower of soi disant "Pope" Michael of North Dakota?
Ny George, I think I've got it! Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider of wait for it....Kazakhstan! Merely a substantial eccentric rather than a schismatic or a sedevacantist. Why are you bashful about answering the questions? Is it because even Bishop Athanasius Schneider does not associate himself with the schism of dead excommunicated Marcel LeFebvre?
I’m not quite sure why you’re harping on this. Didn’t you at first think/imply that Bishop Schneider was SSPX (when he isn’t)?
OK, I got your mandatory smart ass comment. Now, how about honest answers to my questions. Let me also add another: sedevacantist?
And another: Follower of soi disant "Pope" Michael of North Dakota?
Ny George, I think I've got it! Auxiliary Bishop Athanasius Schneider of wait for it....Kazakhstan! Merely a substantial eccentric rather than a schismatic or a sedevacantist. Why are you bashful about answering the questions? Is it because even Bishop Athanasius Schneider does not and will not associate himself with the schism of dead excommunicated Marcel LeFebvre?
The SSPX schism of dead excommunicated Marcel LeFebvre is an evil far more textured than the mere eccentricities of Bishop Athanasius Schneider. Bishop Schneider appears to be in good standing and therefore to be faithfully conforming to his priestly vow of obedience unlike Marcel. Bishop Schneider refrains from choosing, much less choosing and consecrating, bishops of his own proclivities in direct disobedience to the pope based on phony nonsense about some imagined “emergency” justifying such gross disobedience. The LeFebvrite schism also has harbored Bishop Williamson and currently harbors the vile and foul-mouthed slanderer de Mallerais. In better times, the schismatics would have all, after due inquiry and a brief opportunity for repentance, been burned at the stake.
As it turns out, I not only agree with the bishop but also wit his right to say it. It would be helpful if the cited article had taken more trouble to better identify the bishop. In a time of spreading schism, describing one as a bishop no longer suffices. Examples: Bishop Fellay, Bishop de Mallerais. Bishop de Gallaraga, etc.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider is the General Secretary of the Bishops’ Conference of Kazakhstan.
BlackElk wrote: “Merely a substantial eccentric rather than a schismatic or a sedevacantist.”
What does that mean BlackElk? What is “eccentric” about this very orthodox, very licit prelate?
” Examples: Bishop Fellay, Bishop de Mallerais. “
Both have valid orders of the fullest degree, recognized by Rome, even if indirectly, by the LIFTING of the excommunications. Or does that not mean anything to you? Are you starting to channel your inner “sinkspur” again?
Yeah, I get your stance on the SSPX etc, but why are you bringing it into this discussion?
Yeah, I don’t get it.
I suspect a latent sinkspurious issue. But then I am often, well, rather wrong.
What is sinkspurious?
Most orthodox Catholics already know this good bishop quite well. Your ranting on this thread is deeply disturbing. You’ve let your animosity towards the SSPX make you look like a fool.
Full disclosure, I attend the Novus Ordo every day and a diocesan TLM on Sundays. I am not an SSPXer.
Pinging you for your opinion on this article, if you have the time.
It would be even more helpful to take one minute of time to research the Bishop before blindly attacking him.
Apparently the management of St. Peter's Basilica disagrees.
"SSPX Priest Celebrates Mass in Saint Peter's Basilica"
By the gracious permission of the higher direction of the Papal Basilica of Saint Peter in the Vatican, the faithful of the church of Saint-Martin-des-Gaules, Noisy-le-Grand (near Paris) -- who were in Rome for a summer vacation pilgrimage led by Father Michel de Sivry, of the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) -- were able to attend a Mass at the Altar of Saint Pius X, where the saintly Pope's body reposes.
The Mass in the Vatican Basilica was celebrated by Fr. de Sivry on August 9, 2014, during this special centennial year of the dies natalis of Saint Pius X.
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/08/sspx-priest-celebrates-mass-in-saint.html
If I may add, where you see schism, others see counterrevolution. Obedience to injustice is not true obedience; “Take this prisoner out and shoot him.” Obedience to injustice is also an injustice.
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