[narses]

” Examples: Bishop Fellay, Bishop de Mallerais. “

Both have valid orders of the fullest degree, recognized by Rome, even if indirectly, by the LIFTING of the excommunications. Or does that not mean anything to you? Are you starting to channel your inner “sinkspur” again?

[BlackElk]

I suspect that the SSPX bishops are best described as valid but not licit in their consecrations. The lifting of their excommunications has nothing to do with their standing. They are without faculties, without dioceses, without authority of any sort. What do you suppose Fellay has the nerve to be pretending to "negotiate" with the papacy? One good result of the election of Francis seems to be that Fellay is no longer purporting to "negotiate" with the pope.

As to sinkspur, who has not been seen around here in some time, I think I argued against him and Modernism more than most including you. Sinkspur was, in some respects, the opposite of SSPX except that, as a deacon, he was in no position to take it upon himself to choose and consecrate rebellious bishops.