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Protestants: It's time to come back
http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com ^ | September 9, 2011 | Leila Miller

Posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

To my Protestant brothers and sisters:

It's time to come back to Mother Church. We want you, we need you, we love you.

I've spent a lot of time in dialogue with activist atheists recently, and the direction we are going is not pretty. We are witnessing a rapid cultural decline into amorality.

Satan seeks the ruin of souls through the destruction of marriage and family, and the quickest route to his goal is the profanation of sex. The truth and meaning of human sexuality is our era's cultural fault line, and unfortunately, Protestant denominations have been tumbling into its widening crevace at an alarming pace.

The first cracks denying the sacred nature of human sexuality began mere decades ago with the first tentative acceptance of contraception by a Christian church (the Anglicans). After 1,900+ years of unbroken Christian teaching on the immorality of contraception (including 400+ years of unbroken Protestant teaching), a moral evil was suddenly declared good. The entirety of Protestantism, although horrified at first, soon followed suit.

"Woe to those who call evil good" -- Isaiah 5:20

Then came other issues -- sterilization, masturbation, abortion, fornication and cohabiting, homosexual activity and homosexual "marriage". One by one, Protestant communities have broken from Christian teaching and sided with the secular culture. Many Protestant communities do not accept all the aforementioned evils as good, of course, and some are making a valiant attempt to fight one or more of them. However, there is no guarantee that those denominations won't eventually accept other sexual sins in the same way they accepted contraception, sterilization and masturbation. A majority vote by church leaders could launch an unsuspecting Protestant from the Spirit of the Gospel right into the spirit of the age -- the Planned Parenthood age.

Look where you are standing. Unless you stand with the Catholic Church, you may already have one foot off the cliff.

How to guarantee that you'll stand firmly on the ground of moral Truth? Come back home to the Catholic Church.

For over two thousand years:

The Catholic Church has never taught that contraception is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that sterilization is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that masturbation is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that abortion is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that fornication is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that homosexual activity is a moral good, and she never will.

The moral teachings of the Church have never changed, and they never will.

Human sexuality is transcendent, life-giving and sacred, and the Catholic Church will teach that Truth till the last day.

Dear Protestant, a church with a changing morality is a church built on shifting sand. If you want to build your life and eternity on something solid, build it on the Rock of Peter. Don't be carried about by every wind of social change; come back to the Catholic Church and stand strong with us -- one united Body as Jesus intended.

America may not survive many more generations at the rate we are going, but the Church and her teachings will stand regardless, speaking the same Truths, undisturbed, till the end of time. Believe me, it's a really nice place to be in a storm. Extremely peaceful.

So, come on. You'll like it here, living in peace and joy and certainty. It's your rightful home anyway.

Come back to Holy Mother Church. It really is time.


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To: ealgeone

Yes, and? I in NO WAY contradicted myself. Show me EXACTLY WHERE I DID. Can you? I made no contradiction.


541 posted on 07/15/2014 12:47:33 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NKP_Vet

So sayeth the Blogger said that a paper 40 years ago said. The churches were not pro abortion although some individuals within the SBC may have been.. I’m certain if I looked I could find some RCC officials in that era supporting abortion on demand. A SBC pastor endorsing such would have been shown the door by the Deacons as the churches themselves hired the pastor.


542 posted on 07/15/2014 12:48:09 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: vladimir998

Sorry...that sounding brass and clanging symbol background noise of your posts is so loud I can’t hear what you’re saying.


543 posted on 07/15/2014 12:48:21 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Talisker
Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu - Chapter 41 The wise student hears of the Tao and practises it diligently. The average student hears of the Tao and gives it thought now and again. The foolish student hears of the Tao and laughs aloud. If there were no laughter, the Tao would not be what it is.

and we should listen to you, why?

544 posted on 07/15/2014 12:50:23 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: CynicalBear

“Give it up Vlad.”

I can’t give up truth.

“Either man is responsible for his own salvation or God is.”

No, God is responsible for man’s salvation, but man is responsible for losing it.

Isn’t that exactly what happened with Adam and Eve?


545 posted on 07/15/2014 12:51:18 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: NKP_Vet

Don’t hold your breath.


546 posted on 07/15/2014 12:51:28 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ShadowAce

Ha! Yes it is!

This is what I meant to say:

“Any literate Christian person who has access to a Bible is making a mistake if they DON’T spend time reading it.”


547 posted on 07/15/2014 12:52:45 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Little Ray

Good one.


548 posted on 07/15/2014 12:52:53 PM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: metmom

See 547.


549 posted on 07/15/2014 12:53:14 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

your logic is clear.

550 posted on 07/15/2014 12:55:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: boatbums

“Sorry...that sounding brass and clanging symbol background noise of your posts is so loud I can’t hear what you’re saying.”

that’s fine - you never seemed interested in what Catholics said anyway.


551 posted on 07/15/2014 1:02:40 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ealgeone

“your logic is clear.”

The pretzel looks delicious, but won’t cover up your failure to point out where I supposedly contradicted myself. I never contradicted myself. I knew it from the beginning and I knew you would fail to show it. It was inevitable because everything I posted on the subject was accurate.


552 posted on 07/15/2014 1:04:39 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
>> Any literate Christian person who has access to a Bible is making a mistake if they spend time reading it.<<

I think this statement represents it pretty well.

553 posted on 07/15/2014 1:07:29 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Talisker

Clearly the context shows it was a typo.

“Think of it this way: Can we know Jesus without being able to read? Yes. Sure we can. ******But God gave us the Bible to know Him better. Thus, we know Jesus best when we use all that He gave us to know Him - and that includes the Bible naturally.******* [Actually, here’s another typo]: Yet no one would doubt that illiterate people can know Jesus just because they can[can’t] read. Any literate Christian person who has access to a Bible is making a mistake if they [don’t] spend time reading it. Any Catholic who has access to a priest but does *******not******* avail himself of God’s gift of absolution held by the priest is making a mistake.”

The context (i.e. “not” in “does not avail himself”) shows it was a typo. You can claim otherwise, but the truth is obvious from the context.


554 posted on 07/15/2014 1:09:24 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Talisker
Except the Cathars and Albigensians were nonviolent. Which of course you know. So you also know that your comparison of them with murderous Muslims is a deliberate lie.

If they were nonviolent why/how did the murder and mutilation of Pietro Parenzi occur in 1199? Who murdered Peter of Castelnau in 1208? How did these nonviolent people send an army of 2000 horse and 15000 infantry into southern France in 1213?

From Warren Carroll's History of Christendom:

The black legend of the Inquisition has been the most successful of all historical propaganda offensives against the Catholic Church; and the difficulty of responding to it persuasively is vastly increased by the almost complete inability of modern man to understand how any society could regard a man's religion as a matter of life and death. But in fact the heretic in Christendom was in every sense of the word a revolutionary, as dangerous to public order and personal safety as yesterday's Communist or today's terrorist. They brought fear, cruelty, bloodshed and war wherever they appeared in sufficient numbers. The Cathars of southern France had become so strong that only a crusade eventually supported by the full power of the French king had overcome their armed power. Now they had gone underground and had to be rooted out lest they seize power there again. The Glory of Christendom Vol 3 pg 217.

You have accused me of knowing the Cathars and Albigensians to be nonviolent, something history tells me is not true. You have further accused me of deliberately lying. Do you wish to retract or rephrase?

555 posted on 07/15/2014 1:09:35 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: ealgeone

It represents a typo. Nothing more.


556 posted on 07/15/2014 1:09:57 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: daniel1212

What is wrong with Daniel1212 when he can’t add up these numbers. Did you fail 1st grade arithmetic?

Protestants voting for Roe.........6
Catholics voting for Roe...........1

So once again, 6 out of 7 justices that voted for abortion
on demand were protestants.


557 posted on 07/15/2014 1:25:20 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Iscool

“If your religion was anti-abortion it would eliminate all those Bishops who support the pro abortion Democrat Party...”

Unless you can tell me the names of the bishops that voted democrat, and of course you can’t, you need to zip it. You have no idea who supported who in any election.


558 posted on 07/15/2014 1:29:24 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: vladimir998; metmom
>> No, God is responsible for man’s salvation, but man is responsible for losing it.<<

So God saves them but isn’t strong enough to keep them saved?

John 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29"My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.…

But you would say that Jesus was mistaken there because some of those “sheep” would actually perish after having been saved? Also we all know that it’s Satan who attempts to snatch people away from God so would you also say that God was not able to keep Satan from snatching those people away from Him?

559 posted on 07/15/2014 1:31:26 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

Waiting for the apology for you spreading the lie about Catholics giving the country Roe v. Wade.


560 posted on 07/15/2014 1:31:46 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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