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One half will believe... follow the False Prophet, the Pope who will follow Pope Benedict XVI
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Posted on 04/13/2012 4:35:34 PM PDT by stpio

Maybe this is the "May 31st" that the 5th Marian Dogma will be proclaimed? We'll see. Pray for the Holy Father.

Remember, co-...means with.

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/

~ ~ ~

message to Maria of Divine Mercy (Ireland))

Virgin Mary: The time for me to crush the serpent is drawing nearer

Friday, April 13th, 2012 @ 05:57 pm

I am your beloved Mother, Queen of the Earth. I am the Immaculate Conception, the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus who came in the flesh.

My child, the time for the triumph of My Immaculate Heart is close.

The time for me to crush the serpent is drawing nearer. But until the day when Satan and his demons are cast into the wilderness, much confusion will erupt on earth.

For believers in my Son, it will be a time of torment. They will be pulled into two different directions by the Catholic Church.

One half will believe, out of duty, the need to follow the False Prophet, the Pope who will follow Pope Benedict XVI

He, the beast, is dressed like a lamb but is not from my Father, God the Most High, and will fool poor souls including priests, bishops and cardinals.

Many will follow him and believe him to be sent by God to rule over His Church on earth.

Sadly, many souls will follow his teachings which will be insulting to My Father.

Others, filled with the Holy Spirit and given the graces of discernment because of their humble souls, will know instantly, that an imposter sits in the Church in Rome.

The new FALSE pope is already scheming, even before he ascends to the throne of the Seat of Peter, to denounce the teachings of my Son. Then he will denounce me, the Blessed Mother of God, and ridicule my role as Co-Redemptrix.

My child, your role is going to become even harder than before. For many of my children are very confused. The insults you face every day, the torments you endure on behalf of my Son, will increase.

Never be afraid to tell the world [u]the truth[/u] my child.

You are being made stronger as a result of the physical and mental suffering you accept on behalf of my Son in order to save souls.

Every effort, especially by one division in the Catholic Church, will be made to dismiss my messages given to you.

Your obedience and loyalty to me and my beloved Son will be tested as never before. This may lead you to pull away but, should this happen, it will not last long.

Pray, my child, for all of God’s children who, through no fault of their own, are being pulled into the final battle for souls.

All of this must come to pass for it is contained in my Father’s Book.

All the angels in Heaven protect you, my child, in this somewhat lonely mission.

Always remember how important prayer is.

Pray, pray, pray for without prayer, especially the recital of my Holy Rosary, Satan can pull you away from the Holy Word of my Precious Son.

Remember also the importance of fasting for it keeps the deceiver at bay.

Without regular prayer, my children, will find it hard to remain close to my Son.

Never fear the future children for once you remain close to my Son you will be protected

And given the necessary graces to prepare your souls and those of your families for the New Era of Peace foretold so long ago.

Your beloved Mother

Queen of the Earth

Mother of Salvation


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1 posted on 04/13/2012 4:35:37 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

You know this is the Free Republic website, right?

Just checking.

:: popcorn ::


2 posted on 04/13/2012 4:37:39 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: stpio
the False Prophet, the Pope who will follow Pope Benedict XVI

has betting opened up on Intrade yet?

3 posted on 04/13/2012 4:40:03 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Talisker
:: popcorn ::

how come you didn't ping the Know-Nothings?

4 posted on 04/13/2012 4:41:13 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: stpio

Add salt over the shoulder, lepercauns, rub the belly of Buddha, pray toward Mecca...have I forgot anything you guys have to do?


5 posted on 04/13/2012 4:42:10 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: stpio

>>Virgin Mary: The time for me to crush the serpent is drawing nearer

>>Friday, April 13th, 2012 @ 05:57 pm

>>I am your beloved Mother, Queen of the Earth. I am the Immaculate Conception, the Virgin Mary, Mother of Jesus who came in the flesh.

>>My child, the time for the triumph of My Immaculate Heart is close.

>>The time for me to crush the serpent is drawing nearer.

Huh? I always give Roman Catholics the benefit of our shared faith and steer clear of the “Mary” issue, but where is the scripture that tells us that Mary will crush the serpent? Is that official Church doctrine or just one person’s fantasy/opinion?


6 posted on 04/13/2012 4:43:43 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: the invisib1e hand
how come you didn't ping the Know-Nothings?

Because I don't know about the know-nothings. What should I know?

7 posted on 04/13/2012 4:44:18 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Bryanw92
Huh? I always give Roman Catholics the benefit of our shared faith and steer clear of the “Mary” issue, but where is the scripture that tells us that Mary will crush the serpent? Is that official Church doctrine or just one person’s fantasy/opinion?

omg i thought born-agains "knew their bibles"!

8 posted on 04/13/2012 4:49:28 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: stpio

Is Zer0 running for Pope????


9 posted on 04/13/2012 4:50:14 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Talisker
What should I know?

knownothingism.

10 posted on 04/13/2012 4:51:10 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Dutchboy88
You don't have time to post on the net with all the penance you need to perform.

Tempus fugit, madame.

11 posted on 04/13/2012 4:51:36 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: stpio

Even Padre Pio . . .


12 posted on 04/13/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: the invisib1e hand

>>omg i thought born-agains “knew their bibles”!

I’m Methodist. We aren’t really “born agains” in the evangelical sense or big into eschatology. Do you know the answer to my question? I’m truly curious.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 4:53:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: stpio; a fool in paradise

Does that mean we’re all going to die?


14 posted on 04/13/2012 4:54:01 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Bryanw92

then google it.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 4:55:40 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: Bryanw92
I’m Methodist. We aren’t really “born agains” in the evangelical sense or big into eschatology. Do you know the answer to my question? I’m truly curious.

The Bible states that Jesus is the One doing the crushing not Mary.

16 posted on 04/13/2012 4:55:49 PM PDT by ParityErr (It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.)
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To: Bryanw92

Genesis


17 posted on 04/13/2012 4:57:10 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Bryanw92

You have been exposed to someone’s private sort of Catholic-sounding mental world.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 5:00:44 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: stpio

The above is purported private revelation. Quite possibly fraudulant or worse as it seems to claim that the Gates of Hell can prevail using a papal election.

Private revelation requires the approval of the local bishop. I see no evidence from the web site that the local bishop has approved of these purported private revelations.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 5:00:58 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (May Mitt Romney have the mother of all Macaca moments)
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To: the invisib1e hand
knownothingism

I've heard of the term. My grandmother was Irish-Catholic, though later than the historical knownothingism movement you cited. How I should "ping" this escapes me though. The OP is apparently citing an article that purports to quote someone channeling the Virgin Mary, who is declaring she is going to crush "the serpent." If eating popcorn over that gives any insult to the teachings of Catholicism, I'm open to learning about my mistake.

20 posted on 04/13/2012 5:02:31 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It’s the Blessed Trinity’s plan, I’ll share the Scripture with you TIH. If you check the KJV Bible, you will see this verse is drastically changed.

In the English version of the first Bible, St. Jerome’s
Latin Vulgate, the Douay-Rheims Bible:

Genesis 3:15
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

[15] She shall crush: Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head.

http://www.drbo.org/


21 posted on 04/13/2012 5:03:12 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Bryanw92
where is the scripture that tells us that Mary will crush the serpent? Is that official Church doctrine or just one person’s fantasy/opinion?

Kind of a tricky question, actually.

Here's a fairly complete explanation.

22 posted on 04/13/2012 5:05:00 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Bryanw92
“where is the scripture that tells us that Mary will crush the serpent?”

I hate to even lend a little credence to that bizarre interpretation, but my guess is it is VERY loosely based on this:

Genesis 3:14–15 (NIV) So the LORD God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this, “...I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

23 posted on 04/13/2012 5:06:15 PM PDT by Gil4 (Sometimes it's not low self-esteem - it's just accurate self-assessment.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
"You don't have time to post on the net with all the penance you need to perform.

Tempus fugit, madame."

If God would permit the scales to fall from your eyes, you would see that all this nonsense of penance, purgatory, papism, sacerdotalism, sacraments, marioloatry, canonizing, chants, absolution of sin, Hail Marys, and the thousand other traditions of Rome is just empty superstition. I will pray for your escape.

24 posted on 04/13/2012 5:07:17 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Gil4

As my link explains, it isn’t really bizarre. The Hebrew pronoun is ambiguous as to gender, and the possible antecedents — grammatically, not theologically — are either feminine (”woman”) or neuter (”seed”), not masculine.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 5:11:41 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Private revelation requires the approval of the local bishop. I see no evidence from the web site that the local bishop has approved of these purported private revelations.”

~ ~ ~

Read the Catechism, Catholics can believe or disbelieve approved and unapproved private revelation. It takes the Church many years to approve private revelation. It is only condemned, the disapproved, we are to reject.

Do you see...how can the messages from Heaven help us if we
have to wait for their approval? Pray for discernment until
they are approved.

People are mostly negative in reply. Why? Love the mother, love the Son.


26 posted on 04/13/2012 5:12:15 PM PDT by stpio
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To: the invisib1e hand

I did. It talks about Gen 3:15 which says “He shall crush your head” and doesn’t say anything about Mary. I was wondering if there was a more obscure reference in Revelation. I did read on where it said that the original Hebrew and Greek also say “He” but the Latin Vulgate said “She” and that the RCC decided to stick with that.

So, thanks for insulting me and then forcing me to look it up so I learned the whole story when I was going to be content to just hear the RC version!


27 posted on 04/13/2012 5:13:26 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dutchboy88
I will pray for your escape.

Good. I suggest you pray more, and spare us all the invective and name-calling.

Who knows. Perhaps the Holy Spirit will work a miracle ... in you.

28 posted on 04/13/2012 5:14:00 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Bryanw92
I did read on where it said that the original Hebrew and Greek also say “He” but the Latin Vulgate said “She” and that the RCC decided to stick with that.

No. The Greek text is not "original," it's as much a translation as the Latin of the Vulgate is. The pronoun in Hebrew is ambiguous.

And in fact the 1999 revision of the Vulgate changes the "she" to masculine/neuter, as my link points out.

29 posted on 04/13/2012 5:16:44 PM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: All

Reading the negative replies, see parts of the message are already being fulfilled. Don’t listen to naysayers. It’s really true, love the mother, love the Son.

When the 5th and final Marian dogma is proclaimed, those who do not understand Mary’s place in our redemption will say no. Even in the Church.

The same for events of the end times spoken of...
A duly elected Pope would never change the Truth. It will
be a false pope who belongs to the evil one.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 5:22:53 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Campion

OK. Thanks.

The bible sure would be easier to understand if they had just written it in English from the beginning!</sarc>


31 posted on 04/13/2012 5:23:48 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Gil4
it's actually the simplest, most literal interpretation -- about as "scriptural" as one can get.

but don't let reality upset your apple-cart of prejudice!

32 posted on 04/13/2012 5:25:35 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: stpio; Religion Moderator

Source please!!!! What the url where you got this story? Please post it.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: stpio; Religion Moderator

Source please!!!! What IS the url where you got this story? Please post it.


34 posted on 04/13/2012 5:31:56 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Both good pictures!


35 posted on 04/13/2012 5:34:12 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: stpio
Christ shall crush the serpents head not Mary not the angles not the dead saints but Christ Jesus.
36 posted on 04/13/2012 5:42:46 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Grammar & spelling maybe wrong, get over it, the world will not come to an end!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
"And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.
(Gen. 3:15)

It seems to me that it is NOT Mary who will crush the serpent but rather her seed, Jesus Christ.

Just sayin'

37 posted on 04/13/2012 5:48:03 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Salvation

Source please!!!! What the url where you got this story? Please post it.

I shared it, it’s in the OP. Sometimes when I include
a link, it’s showed as I typed it Salvation?

http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/

Maria is a seer from Ireland. The reference to the
“second coming” refers to Our Lord’s “middle coming” which
is spiritual. Our Lord is not returning in His person until
the Final Judgment.

p.s. It’s fact, not everything God has revealed is written in Scripture, that would be a heretical belief. The Fathers of the Church, prophecy, besides Scripture have spoken, Mary crushes the head of the serpent.

The same with revelation about the false prophet. Satan
has always desired to destroy the Church. We’re all going
to see his big effort but you know how it ends.


38 posted on 04/13/2012 5:49:12 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Former Fetus

I shared already, the change in the KJV is drastic. St. Jerome wrote what he did and Pope Damasus approved.
Pope Damasus decided the Canon and it hasn’t been changed
since. Ask, who compiled the Canon, King James and his
translators or Pope Damasus?

see the difference...

“And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel.
(Gen. 3:15)
- - -
I will put enmities between thee and the woman,
and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush
thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.

[15] She shall crush: Ipsa, the woman; so divers of the fathers read this place, conformably to the Latin: others read it ipsum, viz., the seed. The sense is the same: for it is by her seed, Jesus Christ, that the woman crushes the serpent’s head.

http://www.drbo.org/


39 posted on 04/13/2012 6:00:30 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Campion
The pronoun in Hebrew is ambiguous

I don't know Hebrew, so I looked up an English translation of the Tanakh. This is what it says: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; they shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise their heel"

They? That didn't help much, except to support that it is not Mary who crushes the serpent.

40 posted on 04/13/2012 6:00:59 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: stpio; BlackElk
Do you see...how can the messages from Heaven help us if we have to wait for their approval?

That kind of thinking sort of does away with the need for approval altogether. You can believe in an unapproved message without approval of the local bishop (why else would you seek approval unless you believed it?), but it ought not be propagated until there is approval. Certainly, they should not be labeled visions or apparitions without a serious qualifier, such as "purported" or "claimed".

In many cases the local bishop can act and act relatively quickly. Purported apparitions at Necedah (Lacrosse diocese?), Bayside (Brooklyn diocese) and Medjugorje (Mostar diocese) were disapproved in short order, yet the promotion continued. Others, such as Cuapa, Nicaragua and Akita, Japan were approved in a reasonable amount of time.

We are also to reject that purported private revelation which goes against church teaching. A claim that a validly elected pope (as opposed to an anti-pope from a false election) could be the Man of Sin does go against the promise Our Lord gave to St. Peter.

LaSalette, Fatima and Akita have plenty of dire messages of warning, and follow Church teaching. In any event, we need NONE of this private revelation for salvation. Love God; Love your neighbor; obey God's laws. Be baptized. Confess your sins. Receive Our Lord worthily. These are what we need.
41 posted on 04/13/2012 6:08:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: stpio

Wow. Nothing comes to mind as much as the centuries old debate of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.


42 posted on 04/13/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: stpio

The website quotes Garabandal which has NOT been approved by the Vatican. Very interesting place, but not an approved apparition site.


43 posted on 04/13/2012 6:25:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bryanw92
So, thanks for insulting me and then forcing me to look it up so I learned the whole story when I was going to be content to just hear the RC version!

This is a bizarre remark -- but whatever. I thought the link provided by Campion was pretty concise.

Here's something for you to ponder: The Lord said to Abraham, "I will make you a great nation..." Well, not exactly: "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ."

Thus, you see, Abraham and "his seed" are one. In fact, Paul is arguing here that the Lord made the promise to Christ, even though he said it, literally, to Abraham. Abraham and his seed are one, just as Mary and her seed are one.

The links on this thread show it both ways: "She will crush his head" and "He [her offspring or seed]will crush his head"

You're arguing about the difference between an a flower and a bud, straining out the gnat and swallowing the camel.

You might as well face it, for it is a biological fact: No Mary, no Jesus.

44 posted on 04/13/2012 6:33:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: jdsteel
Wow. Nothing comes to mind as much as the centuries old debate of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

Why do you think I broke out the popcorn? I saw it coming : )

45 posted on 04/13/2012 6:39:35 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Dutchboy88
Where to begin, Dutch... This is LITERALLY beginning AT THE BEGINNING. We haven't even gotten past Genesis Chapter 3 before the deceit begins. Looks like no one in the RCC decided to read their Bibles for Lent.

So, what is Lent for anyway? To give up something in order to please God? Really, I'm curious. Give up the Oreos and His Word of Truth sits there, gathering dust. The ONLY thing that will EVER please God, His Son, His Word, and once again, it is turned into a lie. But hey, going 40 days without Oreos and milk should make Him happy. Yeah, it's CLOSE to His FINISHED WORK ON OUR BEHALF.

"The woman shall crush his head." Riiiiiggggghhhttt..

46 posted on 04/13/2012 6:42:08 PM PDT by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing are for an eternity..)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>>I thought the link provided by Campion was pretty concise.

It was. Campion was very helpful.

>>You might as well face it, for it is a biological fact: No Mary, no Jesus.

True. Also true: No Mom, no me. But, my boss doesn’t send my paycheck to my mother.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 6:46:59 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“That kind of thinking sort of does away with the need for approval altogether. You can believe in an unapproved message without approval of the local bishop (why else would you seek approval unless you believed it?), but it ought not be propagated until there is approval. Certainly, they should not be labeled visions or apparitions without a serious qualifier, such as “purported” or “claimed”.

~ ~ ~

Hi Doctor,

Not true, if you are saying until a private revelation gains approval, we are not allowed to believe a private revelation.

Catholics who are interested in the prophetic, know which has “approval” and which is yet to be “approved” and that is most of the current messages from Heaven. You can’t keep what Heaven is saying away from people until “approval” comes.

Heaven can’t wait that long. The smoke of Satan has
infiltrated the Vatican per Pope Paul VI. This fact and pride, “some” of the local bishops and Vatican hierarchy are biased. Yes. The messages from Heaven say it.

We need Heaven’s help now. You mentioned the recent “approved” Wisconsin apparition. Is it 10 years for approval, what is the time period that it took to be approved?

And speak of Medjugorje. The Vatican took over it’s investigation so it has not been decided yet. Look at the fruit, the miracles of Medjugorje.


48 posted on 04/13/2012 6:56:10 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

Hey StPio, I doubt that you know how to discern apparition messages very well. But there is alot of error in TheWarningSecondComing.com

For one, last year either ‘Jesus’ or ‘Mary’ was stating the warning would occur in 2011. When that didnt happen they edited it out of the messages. There is so much more.

Conte has one of the best written denunciations of these messages:
http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/evaluation-of-the-warning-second-coming-messages/

Followed by this forum and its two threads on the subject:
http://motherofgod.freeforums.org/the-warning-second-coming-t2799.html

http://motherofgod.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2218

Please be aware that these message are false and hopefully you quit disseminating them or learn how to discern these things.


49 posted on 04/13/2012 7:11:43 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: RBStealth

and...

http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false199.htm

Make sure you go to the MotherofGod forums and read both those threads. Contained within one of those threads is about a 1 hr radio interview with MariaDivineMercy where she says stuff about her Bishop finding error in her messages and the reason why as indicated in the thread.


50 posted on 04/13/2012 7:15:12 PM PDT by RBStealth
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