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Pharaoh at bat? History throws a curve (Prof claims baseball invented in ancient Egypt)
Albany Times-Union ^ | 3.15.03 | BRUCE WEBER

Posted on 03/16/2003 4:29:13 AM PST by mhking

Pharaoh at bat? History throws a curve

Professor claims earliest bat-and-ball games were played in ancient Egypt

By BRUCE WEBER, New York Times
First published: Saturday, March 15, 2003

No disrespect meant to Abner Doubleday or Alexander Cartwright or anybody else who might claim responsibility for the game we call baseball, but Thutmose III had them beat by three millennia or so.

Thutmose ruled Egypt during the 15th century B.C., and is the first known pharaoh to have depicted himself in a ritual known as seker-hemat, which Egyptologist Peter A. Piccione has loosely translated as "batting the ball."

"The word they use is sequer, which literally means to strike or to hit," said Piccione, 51, a professor of comparative ancient history at the College of Charleston in South Carolina, "but in the context, he's there with the bat. I translated it as batting the ball."

The context he's referring to is a wall relief at the shrine of Hathor, the goddess of love and joy, in Hatshepsut's temple at Deir-el-Bahari, where Thutmose is seen holding a softball-size ball in one hand and a long stick, wavy at the end, in the other. The hieroglyphic over the scene reads: "Batting the ball for Hathor, who foremost in Thebes." The date is circa 1475 B.C.

The picture of Thutmose also shows two priests, small figures, in the act of catching a ball.

"They have their arms raised up and balls in their hands like you would catch a softball," Piccione said. "The inscription says, 'Catching it for him by the servants of the gods.' "

Piccione makes a specialty of Egyptian religion. He's particularly interested in the sports and games that the ancient Egyptians included in festivals honoring certain deities, a pursuit that led him to muse on the relationship between ancient Egyptian "baseball" and American baseball. His findings are included in a popular lecture -- called "Pharaoh at the Bat" -- that he recently delivered in Charleston and has been honing since delivering a paper on the subject at the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 1995. In it, he describes a relationship similar to the one between, say, pterodactyls and blue jays.

"There's no direct connection, and Egyptians don't play anything like this at all today," Piccione said. "But the Egyptian game did function as a precursor. There are only a few bat and ball games that have ever been around."

Actually, Piccione said, Egyptians probably batted the ball around for nearly 1,000 years before Thutmose III. There are references to the activity in inscriptions inside the pyramids dating to 2400 B.C.

It isn't known precisely how the game was played. "To be honest, we don't know if they did any running," Piccione said, "but I suspect they did, because kings did a lot of running rituals."

Actually, the connections Piccione's lecture makes between then and now are more broadly cultural in nature.

"It started in Egypt as purely a boys' game," said Piccione (who is, incidentally, a Yankee fan even though he grew up in Brooklyn). "And it was probably played in a festival, so the actual ball-playing took on some kind of religious meaning because it was played in a religious context."

When the king came out and played, therefore, the excitement and fun of the game and its religious meaning were consolidated, he said.

"Baseball functions the same way," he said. "Over time it has accumulated meaning. It's an interesting parallel development."

He cites the idea that every spring baseball starts up again, and as such it has become a ritual of the season.

He cites the mythology that grows up around the players and lasts for generations, the near godliness of figures like Babe Ruth, the identification of the game with our country.

Piccione ended his lecture and an interview with a reading from his own version of Ernest Lawrence Thayer's "Casey at the Bat," which ends, alas, just as badly for the home team:

O somewhere in the Aten's circuit, the sun is shining bright

Nubian drums play somewhere and Hittite hearts are light

In Babylon men are laughing, in Nineveh children shout

But there is no joy in Mud-brickville

Great Pharaoh has struck out.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; baseball; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history
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1 posted on 03/16/2003 4:29:13 AM PST by mhking
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
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2 posted on 03/16/2003 4:29:35 AM PST by mhking
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"But there is no joy in Mud-brickville. Great Pharaoh has struck out."

Hilarious (and a most interesting post).

3 posted on 03/16/2003 4:36:32 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: mhking
Egyptologists don't know what the hell they're talking about. When they figure out what the Egyptians used monoatomic gold for then I'll be impressed.
4 posted on 03/16/2003 5:11:03 AM PST by thedugal
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To: mhking
The context he's referring to is a wall relief at the shrine of Hathor, the goddess of love and joy, in Hatshepsut's temple at Deir-el-Bahari, where Thutmose is seen holding a softball-size ball in one hand and a long stick, wavy at the end, in the other. The hieroglyphic over the scene reads: "Batting the ball for Hathor, who foremost in Thebes." The date is circa 1475 B.C.

And, really, what "bat" would old Tut be using to honor the godess of love?

5 posted on 03/16/2003 5:21:00 AM PST by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can)
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To: mhking
And the Cinnattus Reds were the 1st team I bet.
6 posted on 03/16/2003 5:27:41 AM PST by Waco
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Professor claims earliest bat-and-ball games were played in ancient Egypt

And the bat should be envious of Archeopteryx?
7 posted on 03/16/2003 5:27:54 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Waco
And the Cinnattus Reds were the 1st team I bet.

Marge Schott is certainly old enough...

8 posted on 03/16/2003 5:28:39 AM PST by mhking
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To: mhking
Is Leonard Jeffries going to sue Abner Doubleday for reparations?
9 posted on 03/16/2003 5:34:10 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Dang those evil ice people!)
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To: mhking
Historians are going to be really disappointed when they find out that all the hieroglyphics on those walls are actually just batting averages, slugging percentages and ERAs. In fact, the Memphis Pharoahs and the Giza Pyramids had quite a rivalry going. The Cairo team was pathetic however, like the Boston Red Sox, they went several hundreds years without winning a World Series.
10 posted on 03/16/2003 5:38:31 AM PST by SamAdams76 (California wine tastes better - boycott French wine!)
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To: mhking
Now batting for the Memphis Chicks...Miguel Cairo...Grover Cleveland Alexandria...Scipio Sphinx...

/grasping now

11 posted on 03/16/2003 5:47:55 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: mhking
Old news. The Weekly World News reported on this years ago.
12 posted on 03/16/2003 5:55:14 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: mhking
This is all BS. Everybody knows that baseball is far, far, older than that.

Genesis 1:1 "In the big inning, God created the Heavens and the earth..."

So there.

13 posted on 03/16/2003 6:24:03 AM PST by oldsalt
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To: oldsalt

ehh actually baseball is known to have been invented by the ancient mesopotamians

14 posted on 03/16/2003 6:36:15 AM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
In modern Arabia, they play baseball still. The game begins where the ball is the head of an infidel, the bat the stock of a AK-47.

It is interesting to note that the opposition will be coming to bat in, oh, about 72 hours.

15 posted on 03/16/2003 6:56:54 AM PST by Enduring Freedom
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To: mhking
Moses: ``Pharaoh, set our free agents free!''I suppose that Moses actually did what Curt Flood took credit for.
16 posted on 03/16/2003 10:49:52 AM PST by nickcarraway
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17 posted on 03/16/2003 10:51:53 AM PST by nickcarraway
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18 posted on 12/29/2004 6:06:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The odds are very much against inclusion, and non-inclusion is unlikely to be meaningful." -seamole)
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Does this mean that we must turn over all of our baseball bats to Egypt?

;o)

19 posted on 12/29/2004 6:12:04 PM PST by NautiNurse
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To: mhking
Hence, the origin of sand lot baseball.

"Who's on First, I Don't Known's on Second, and Thutmose is on Third."

20 posted on 12/29/2004 8:02:12 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (*Mischief * Managed!*)
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